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virgin queen release
« on: May 19, 2022, 08:53:56 am »
can virgin queens be direct released into hives or should they be put into release cages. hives were checked for queen cells. i posted this under queen rearing but need a quick response. 5 of 6 hatched this morning

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Re: virgin queen release
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2022, 09:49:40 am »
how long have the hives been without a queen?
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Re: virgin queen release
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2022, 10:10:45 am »

I would use a cage.  You never know, the colony may have different plans and need to be coaxed into the virgin.  A frame with eggs and larvae may help too.  Is there still brood present?

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Re: virgin queen release
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2022, 12:54:49 pm »
Agree ~ Ive seen too many queens mauled and suffocated to take the risk of any queen no matter the circumstances.
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Re: virgin queen release
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2022, 02:40:41 pm »
i read that because of a lack of pheromones it was possible. i marked & caged them to be safe.

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Re: virgin queen release
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2022, 04:36:26 pm »
It is safe, until Murphy steps in. It's safer to cage them.
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Re: virgin queen release
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2022, 09:20:11 pm »
I have a friend that sprays the bees and virgin with water with some vanilla extract in it and just lets them loose. I just happened to watch a video last night of an Englishman name Noel just letting them go in the hives.
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Re: virgin queen release
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2022, 11:33:30 pm »
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Re: virgin queen release
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2022, 08:47:55 am »
in hindsight i should have i should have installed the queen cells before they hatched.

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Re: virgin queen release
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2022, 11:29:56 am »
in hindsight i should have i should have installed the queen cells before they hatched.
Agree. 
A virgin queen still emits pheromones.

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Re: virgin queen release
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2022, 12:36:16 pm »
Rober, I cannot tell you how many 'hindsights' I have had with beekeeping  :D
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Re: virgin queen release
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2022, 09:28:33 am »
in hindsight i should have i should have installed the queen cells before they hatched.
Agree. 
A virgin queen still emits pheromones.

A local guy, that rears queens using the Doolittle method, says he will put 2 queen cells per split.  3 queen cells if he has them to spare.