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Re: Oxalic Acid Discussion
« Reply #200 on: August 27, 2017, 08:36:51 pm »
Yes.   However in the warmer months you will have brood in capped cells that OAV cannot reach into, So another application when those cells have opened will help knock the mites down harder.
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Re: Oxalic Acid Discussion
« Reply #201 on: April 14, 2018, 08:58:23 am »
wrong thread.
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Re: Oxalic Acid Discussion
« Reply #202 on: April 16, 2018, 12:45:25 am »
"wrong thread"

scott, ? ? ?

or you meant to reply to this thread and did?
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Re: Oxalic Acid Discussion
« Reply #203 on: April 16, 2018, 09:33:09 am »
Yeah, I meant to reply to "that" thread and hit this one instead.   Another year older and just a little easier to confuse myself!
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Re: Oxalic Acid Discussion
« Reply #204 on: April 16, 2018, 09:49:47 pm »
been there done that, do it everyday!.......... :D :D :laugh:

you admit it, i don't......... :D :D :D
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Re: Oxalic Acid Discussion
« Reply #205 on: April 17, 2018, 08:45:09 am »
heh, well if I didn't laugh at myself I wouldn't laugh very often.   ;D
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Re: Oxalic Acid Discussion
« Reply #206 on: April 17, 2018, 09:38:15 am »
Oh, I don't know Lazy.  There's always Josh! :laugh:
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Re: Oxalic Acid Discussion
« Reply #207 on: April 18, 2018, 10:56:52 am »
JOSH! Yeah, but if we laugh at him too much he will leave! Then we cant blame him for all the things we.... HE did wrong!
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Re: Oxalic Acid Discussion
« Reply #208 on: April 18, 2018, 06:45:21 pm »
Question about mite resistance to OA: In our bee club, we are being taught that we should switch out our mite treatments so the mites don't become resistant to one type of treatment. For instance, do a Formic in the spring, and an Apivar in the fall. Or, do an OA in the spring and a different method in the fall.

I was under the impression that the mites don't become resistant to OA .. period. And I haven't seen any news of late of that advice changing over the year.

Any input on that?




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Re: Oxalic Acid Discussion
« Reply #209 on: April 18, 2018, 07:08:46 pm »
I haven't seen any information one way or the other, but to me, it seems like a good idea to switch it up just to avoid any possibility of resistance.   "Don't become resistant....period", that's what "they" said about roundup.  Roundup resistant water hemp anyone?  Ted
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Re: Oxalic Acid Discussion
« Reply #210 on: April 18, 2018, 08:12:13 pm »
i think, like ted said it is good practice to change mite treatment up (and recommended) to avoid resistance.

is o.a. the silver bullet? perhaps. only time will tell for those of us who use this exclusively.
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Re: Oxalic Acid Discussion
« Reply #211 on: April 18, 2018, 08:36:25 pm »
Well then I'm going to need to do some homework, because the only other form I used was 8 years ago and that was Formic MAQS, and there was too much bee die off with that, plus puts the queen in danger. I'm not going to use any other method where there is bee die off.
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Re: Oxalic Acid Discussion
« Reply #212 on: April 18, 2018, 09:51:08 pm »
try apiguard jen, i use it, i don't have problems with it as i do with other methods.

it's a thymol gel packet. it does work, not so hard on the bees and queens as other methods.
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Re: Oxalic Acid Discussion
« Reply #213 on: April 19, 2018, 05:54:12 am »
I haven't seen any information one way or the other, but to me, it seems like a good idea to switch it up just to avoid any possibility of resistance.   "Don't become resistant....period", that's what "they" said about roundup.  Roundup resistant water hemp anyone?  Ted
FWIW, I mix it up and rotate mite treatments.  We should learn from history and not create a super pest. 

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Re: Oxalic Acid Discussion
« Reply #214 on: April 19, 2018, 10:55:29 am »
Hi Baker, I'm just on my first cuppa this morning... what does FWIW mean?
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Re: Oxalic Acid Discussion
« Reply #215 on: April 19, 2018, 02:25:05 pm »
For what it's worth, Jen, FWIW means For What Its Worth.   :)
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Re: Oxalic Acid Discussion
« Reply #216 on: April 20, 2018, 05:47:40 am »
For what it's worth, Jen, FWIW means For What Its Worth.   :)
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Re: Oxalic Acid Discussion
« Reply #217 on: April 21, 2018, 09:30:02 pm »
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Re: Oxalic Acid Discussion
« Reply #218 on: September 08, 2018, 01:43:21 pm »
Right now, my mom and pop are in Ireland, looking up moms relatives between Kilkenny and Dublin....   So,, I got a text from a "relative" who is a beekeeper asking about how we keep bees here.... I told him to get ON WWB!... but he doesn't have "regular" internet. he uses his phone and said it is too expensive....   Anyhow, the third question I asked, was how he treats his hives????

  Yeah, he said Oxalic Acid Vapor.   He said he still uses the vaporizor his "pap" made over 20 years ago. Uses butane torch to heat the bottom of it.  Trying to get a picture or vid from him... 

   OVER 20 years ago?   He says his "PAP" which I found out is his Grandfather, not his father, bought wood bleach. They started out using it in liquid form. Washing the inside of the hive with a liquid solution, that turned to the crystalline structure when it dried. SO they would wipe down the inside of the hive when they did inspections...  Yeesh....  sounds like a lot of work to me..

   Somewhere along the line they found out it worked just as well in vapor form. So "Pap" made a vaporizor with a spout, that he used his carbide lamp to heat the bottom of until the vapor started erupting from the spout...  from that day on, the walked along the row of hives and stuck the spout in, heated the bottom of the vaporizor until they saw the vapor coming from the upper entrance...

   So, were talking about how long THEY have been using upper AND lower entrances now...   Story from another thread.... this guy has an accent even texting!
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Re: Oxalic Acid Discussion
« Reply #219 on: September 08, 2018, 10:12:38 pm »
Good story Scott! As usual  :) 8)
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