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Offline Mikey N.C.

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Re:early spring
« on: February 16, 2019, 05:19:09 pm »
Didn't want to hijack Neil's post .
Thanks for replying.
Lee,  yes I'm still a little slow  :) Yes I was asking what temps. are the best and you answered that. 70-90. Thanks!
My concern can Q lay early batch of drones, and if you have a cold snap do drones cluster with everyone else?
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Re:early spring
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2019, 05:29:26 pm »
Another question i have.  If you run all nucs. (2,3,4,5) frames for Q making. Who's
Drone dna is in dca ?
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Re: Re:early spring
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2019, 06:00:06 pm »
""Who's Drone dna is in dca ?""

The distant neighbor's. When drones reach maturity, they leave home. Then they bar hop from hive to hive to eat and sleep. By the time they reach a DCA, they may be miles from their birth place.
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Re:early spring
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2019, 06:31:51 pm »
So it's possible that dca's dna is not desirable?
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Re: Re:early spring
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2019, 06:46:34 pm »
I don't know, but I can say it is not controllable.
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Re:early spring
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2019, 10:18:33 am »
The queen will hopefully mate with numerous drones and may go out more than once to mate.  You may notice that the same queen will produce offspring that is slightly different over time.  That would be a result of mating with different drones and the impact of different DNA.  The results may be slightly darker bees or crankier bees and so forth.  Purchasing a mated queen from a reliable source can help insure good characteristics are pass down to workers and drones in the colony.  There are no guarantees that you will get desirable DNA, but take comfort in the fact that she will breed with many different drones from different colonies.
Clarence Collison has talked and written a lot on this topic.  He has a monthly column in Bee Culture magazine.  I had a chance to hear him speak about queen mating.
 
I think you can kind of compare it to collecting pollen.  The honey bees in a colony will collect pollen from many different sources.  Not all pollen is created equal in nutrition.  Collecting from different sources ensures a well balanced diet.
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Re: Re:early spring
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2019, 05:25:56 pm »
a Mickey snip...
So it's possible that dca's dna is not desirable?

IMHO the more diversity the better.  Queen rearing folks saturate an area with their own drones but this only hedges their bet on whom mates with who.  These 'drone mother' hives get fed early and often and typically are loaded down with old drone comb*.  Multiple mating increase the odds that a queen's offspring will have a diverse set of behavior traits that improves the hives survival potential.

*these are typically frames I would toss but for a queen breeder they have great value.

Gene in Central Texas....
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Re: Re:early spring
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2019, 10:29:00 pm »
Quote from: Mikey N.C. on February 16, 2019, 05:19:09 pm
...My concern can Q lay early batch of drones, and if you have a cold snap do drones cluster with everyone else?
Drones can cluster and generate heat, but I haven't read much more than that.  The bees worry about how many drones/workers are produced, according to their needs or anticipated needs (swarm prep). 

The only way I know how to control matings is to place the bees on an island without honey bees or via II.  :)
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Re:early spring
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2019, 02:57:58 pm »
Is there such a thing as Robbing this time of year with the large fluctuating temps. ?????
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Re: Re:early spring
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2019, 05:39:09 am »
not the normal situation... robbing comes later and this time of year orientation flight is often confused with robbing...
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Re: Re:early spring
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2019, 07:09:02 am »
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Re:early spring
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2019, 05:36:08 pm »


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Re:early spring
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2019, 06:12:33 pm »
Mikey, light green pollen.  Looks like silver maple, maybe?
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Re:early spring
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2019, 06:28:31 pm »
B13, wife said that's exactly the trees , she's from up north,  she knows maples, not me ;D
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