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Beekeeping => Healing From The Hive => Topic started by: Perry on April 10, 2014, 08:43:21 am
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Hey Jen:
For the third time in my life I have come down with "tennis elbow". If anyone else has ever had it they can understand how disruptive this can be. The 2 previous times I've had it, Cortisone injections directly into the elbow only provided fleeting relief, and it basically took several months (!!!) to go away.
Something as simple as picking up a pot of coffee to pour a cup results in stabbing pain shooting up my arm. Disrupted sleep is next as you constantly shift and turn trying to find a comfortable zone.
Would bee stings help?
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I get tennis elbow fairly often. Sometimes I catch it soon enough, once in a while I get to the point that I can't lift a coffee cup. I dunno about bee stings, but one of those pressure bands that go over your forearm have helped me when I got it bad.
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I had it once in 2008. It would really zing if you moved it just right! :'( I used a $10 band from Walmart. Like Keith said, it helped. At least, it allowed me to do my work around the house. It took several months for mine to go away.
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I can't play tennis or softball now without one of those compression bands.
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It was explained to me that the tendon is stretched in your forearm and becomes thin in the middle...kinda like laffy taffy or stretch armstrong (if you remember him? ;) ). In worse cases, they cut out the thin part and sew the two good ends back together. :o
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Hi guys! Okay, so are you sure it's tennis elbow? the diagnosis is important because if it's tennis elbow it will involve tendons, if it's bursitis or arthritis it will involve the elbow joint, the stings vary in each case. Let me know :)
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How is that tennis elbow coming along? Exercises will help. http://www.hughston.com/hha/a.seven.htm (http://www.hughston.com/hha/a.seven.htm)
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It's still there, 24/7.
Probably due to compensating, pain has migrated up to my shoulder and down to my wrist. If I rest things it seems to improve, unfortunately I am almost at the point where rest is out of the equation.
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Hi Perry! did you get the post where I recommened putting a bee directly on your elbow, and the area on your shoulder that is the most painful?
I have some pics on how to get the bees into a jar and use tweezers to apply the bees. Give me an hour or so, I have company and am feeding and sending them off.
Sorry we lost communication on your troubles :sad:
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Hi Perry- Until it's determined why your elbow, shoulder and wrist are acting up, this is what I would do with bee stings to help manage the pain.
I would start with anywhere on the elbow, one sting. I don't know when the last time was that you got stung, but should count on some swelling and itching. Everyone is different. As soon as the swelling is down which will be about 3 days, sting it again.
The long handled tweezer are the best, but you can use your wives if she will let you
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Grap a bee at the entrance or wherever is convenient, try and get her at her thorax
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place the bees bottom right on the skin where it hurts, wait a couple of seconds and gently pull her away leaving the stinger on your skin.
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Once the stinger is in your skin, count 5 seconds the quickly scratch the stinger out.
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You will feel the fire for about 10-15 minutes, then your painful area should be feeling better. This one stings should ease the pain in your shoulder and wrist. In time you will be putting a stinger in all three places.
Be patient with your healing process, take note of any changes. You can sting every three days. It will take anywhere from 15-20 stings in succession before the swelling and itching is no longer present.
Keep me posted, Jennifer :)
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Hey Squirt, don't try this at home. ;D Jack
PS. i should be good for a while, i've been stung over 15 times the last 2 days :sad:. (working bees in rainy weather)
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Mee too Jack! plenty of stings this last month.
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"Hey Squirt, don't try this at home. ;D Jack"
thanks jack for thinking of me, i won't be for awhile i guess. wish i could take stings like everyone else, someday!
thanks jen for your informative pictures and post!
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You Are Welcome :)
I also have pics of how to keep bees in captivity for a week for those who don't have hives near their homes ~
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Hey Perry! I have an idea on how you can get stings on your elbow... you say that you always get stung on your hands and wrists. What if... you just rolled up your sleeve past your elbow when your working your bees? Or, if you want to really make the stings local, roll up your sleeve past your elbow, keeping the sleeve snug there, then put on a beekeepers glove high enough to expose the elbow and down a ways to the middle part of the lower arm. That is a perfect way to administer pain relief without actually using the bee yourself. I'm brilliant today ;) 8)
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Hey Perry! I have an idea on how you can get stings on your elbow... you say that you always get stung on your hands and wrists. What if... you just rolled up your sleeve past your elbow when your working your bees? Or, if you want to really make the stings local, roll up your sleeve past your elbow, keeping the sleeve snug there, then put on a beekeepers glove high enough to expose the elbow and down a ways to the middle part of the lower arm. That is a perfect way to administer pain relief without actually using the bee yourself. I'm brilliant today ;) 8)
Now that I could do!
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;D Yay!
Remember that heat moves UP... Venom is heat... so if you get stung on the elbow the pain relief will move into your shoulder ;) 8)
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I got tendonitis in my elbow about 5 months ago ( from a day of demolition work with a hammer) It's been a very painful condition for me too, especially since I do physical work every day. Like Perry said, it hurts with even everyday movements and at night in bed. I think I'm finally ready to give the apitherapy a try, because it's just not going away on its own.
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Yay Pete! K, now, do you have any pain anywhere else? like wrist, thumb, shoulder, any fingers?
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I have recurring arthritic pain in my finger joints from gripping tools all day (and many cold days running chain saws in my youth). Bee stings have been great at relieving that. Otherwise the only chronic pain is in my lower back and my knees :) That's the lot of a tradesperson in the flooring trades.
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I might have to give it a try..
My left elbow does NOT normally hurt. But when I use it, pushing something, or trying to lift the barbel it shoots pain up my arm.. Once I stop the pain stops.. it has bee a great deterent not to work out, but often I NEED to use my arm.. like setting railroad ties for one of my wifes MANY projects.. Not sure if it will help but it will onlyu cost one bee to find out.
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That's all it takes my friend. Sounds like bursitis if it's sending pain, where as arthritis is a chronic ache. Bee venom is Perfect for bursitis! And, you can put a bee directly on the elbow, then another bee on the inside of the arm directly adjacent to the elbow. But for now just directly on the elbow. It will be smarty because the sting will be right next to bone.
You Can Do It! GO!
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Thx for asking the question Perry.I have tennis elbow too.Jen,thx for posting about tweezers and how to do the stings.I set tile for a living and still need to work,so I hope this works.Going out side to give it a try. 8)
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Hi jb - It Will Work! I promise, you just have to keep with it. Every 3 days get your tweezers and put a bee on your sore elbow. In time you can increase the number of bees if you want to. But for right now, just one every three days for a couple of weeks. Keep us posted.
Also, white toothpaste is good to knock down the itch, and won't interfere with the venom process. Hang tough, you can do it! ;) :)
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The tweezers worked great.I had been thinking about trying this for a long time but wasn't sure how to go about it.Thx a lot Jen. I had visions of being stung on the finger tips so I like your way much better.I still wore my arm band but I'll keep an open mind.
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Atta Boy JB! Remember, you'll get some swelling which might make the elbow ache, you might think 'this isn't working' but the swelling itself puts pressure on the sore elbow, as time goes by, and you sting every 3 days, you will swell less and less until you don't swell anymore.
Everyone is different with the swelling and itching, if your swelling goes down by the end of two day, you can sting every two days.
It's Your Own Medicine, You're The Boss!
PS. Ice helps with the itching