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Beekeeping => TBH, Warre, and Other Alternative Hives => Topic started by: tedh on March 08, 2017, 08:41:51 am

Title: Portable Obsevation Hive
Post by: tedh on March 08, 2017, 08:41:51 am
Hi Everyone,
   Brother is going to build an observation hive for us to use at a few honey bee presentations here locally.  Is there an optimum size, 1 frame, 2 frame, 3 frame, etc..  Should it be be build so the frames rest side by side as in a typical hive or should the frames (2 frames) be placed end to end?  Side by side would give the girls a place to get out of the light but end to end would allow people to see both sides of each of two frames. I can't imagine the bees would be in there more than 3 hours and that would be a stretch.  Probably closer to 2 hours.  Other things to keep in mind or any added amenities to the OB hive?  Ventilation comes to mind.  Others?  Thanks, Ted
Title: Re: Portable Obsevation Hive
Post by: Perry on March 08, 2017, 11:20:44 am
Mine is 3 deep frames high, could probably have gotten away with just 2 deep high. I don't think you want anything wider than a single frame, people hope and hunt for the queen. With a 3 framer you have the choice of leaving them in there for longer, easily several days if needed.
I have lots of ventilation in mine and the bees can propolize the screens if they choose.
OB hives are one of the best ways to grab and keep kids attention! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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Title: Re: Portable Obsevation Hive
Post by: tedh on March 08, 2017, 11:32:15 am
THAT'S nice Perry!  Could you post some more pics, closeups of the venting, and construction details?  Never thought of the frames on top of each other.  Can the frames be observed from both sides?  It appears in one of the pics the OB hive has at least one side covered with something white?  How do you install the frames?  More man, more!  Ted
Title: Re: Portable Obsevation Hive
Post by: Perry on March 08, 2017, 04:33:43 pm
There's not a lot to it. The glass is actually 2 sheets of Lexan (one for each side) and they just slide down into slots on the sides when the lid is up. Those white pieces you mentioned are just cloroplast (real esate sign) material that slide into another slot next to the Lexan to protect and darken the hive. On the one end I have a feeder jar with a tunnel built to it to give bees access, and on the other end just a 1" hole for the bees to come and go if I let them. Plenty of screened vent holes on top and down each side (I have wooden plugs to block them off if needed).
If you wanted a good Ob. hive to buy though, I would go for one of those Ulster OB hives. :)

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Title: Re: Portable Obsevation Hive
Post by: neillsayers on March 08, 2017, 04:40:18 pm
That is really cool, Perry. Those kids will never forget that.

Good on you Ted for giving beekeeping the good PR! :)
Title: Re: Portable Obsevation Hive
Post by: LazyBkpr on March 09, 2017, 01:56:21 pm

   So, does this mean I do not have to clean up mine?   C:-)
   Last time I used it was two years ago for a speach at the library for kids, so it has about an inch of dust on it.   ;D
Title: Re: Portable Obsevation Hive
Post by: Jen on March 09, 2017, 02:30:03 pm
How about these from Dadant and Amazon? I too would like to go to my grandkids' classrooms...

https://www.dadant.com/catalog/k-gs4005-observation-hive

https://www.amazon.com/Medium-Beekeeping-Keeping-Observation-Hive/dp/B00IJO827C/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1489087907&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=portable+observation+hive

Title: Re: Portable Obsevation Hive
Post by: robo on March 09, 2017, 04:23:17 pm
I'd suggest an Ulster hive.   Easy to move around and has plenty of support bees to keep things in check.

http://www.worldwidebeekeeping.com/forum/index.php/topic,5889.msg75725.html#msg75725

I usually just use a 5 frame nuc to fill it the night before and fill the empty frame space with a comb filled with water.
Title: Re: Portable Obsevation Hive
Post by: Wandering Man on March 09, 2017, 06:00:48 pm
For those of us with improper training in carpentry:

http://www.brushymountainbeefarm.com/Ulster-Observation-Hive/productinfo/U501/

Title: Re: Portable Obsevation Hive
Post by: tedh on March 23, 2017, 06:42:19 pm
Dang!  I LOVE my family!

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Title: Re: Portable Obsevation Hive
Post by: Wandering Man on March 23, 2017, 06:57:30 pm
Absolutely Gorgeous!

Title: Re: Portable Obsevation Hive
Post by: Perry on March 23, 2017, 08:35:47 pm
Did you build  :o or buy that? I see it sitting on a work bench.
Beauty! :)
Title: Re: Portable Obsevation Hive
Post by: Jen on March 23, 2017, 08:52:30 pm
Very cool Ted! So how does this work? How many frames fit in there? How do you know the if the queen is upstairs in viewing or down stairs in the other frames?
Title: Re: Portable Obsevation Hive
Post by: tedh on March 23, 2017, 09:40:13 pm
No Perry, I didn't build it, MY BROTHER DID!
Jen, the bottom is a 5 frame nuc.  We can move the frame with the queen into the upper, viewing portion as needed. The upper observation unit will have a plastic queen excluder that keeps queen in place.  The observation portion can be removed and we'll use the bottom as a nuc and manage the colony accordingly.  I was concerned about leaving such a nice piece out in the weather but brother said he put 5 coats of marine varnish on and it should be fine.  Can't wait to get it in my hot little hands.  That'll happen next weekend.  Ted
Title: Re: Portable Obsevation Hive
Post by: Jen on March 23, 2017, 10:13:46 pm
Lucky dog! Very nice and presentable piece of equipment  ;D 8)
Title: Re: Portable Obsevation Hive
Post by: neillsayers on March 23, 2017, 10:46:37 pm
A thing of beauty!  :)
Title: Re: Portable Obsevation Hive
Post by: Mikey N.C. on March 25, 2017, 08:30:42 am
Ted, heres one i helped cover it up build.
We put vents in top and one in the bottom with #8 , there is a QE at the bottom of single frame holder and the entrance can be shut off , for transport thats why we put in vents.
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Title: Re: Portable Obsevation Hive
Post by: tedh on March 25, 2017, 09:19:52 am
That is BEAUTIFUL Mikey!  I'm always amazed by people with that much skill, and a bit jealous.  Ted
Title: Re: Portable Obsevation Hive
Post by: Jen on March 25, 2017, 11:48:21 am
Both of those observation hives look great! But I was thinking about this one from Dadant

https://www.dadant.com/catalog/k-gs4005-observation-hive

Not sure how it works tho. It takes a deep frame and a medium frame... I think stacked.

 I don't have any deep frames with out take a hive down to the bottom deep. Wonder if I could use two med frames?

  Ohh, and just found this medium one on Amazon...

https://www.amazon.com/Medium-Beekeeping-Keeping-Observation-Hive/dp/B00IJO827C/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1490459038&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=portable+observation+beehive
Title: Re: Portable Obsevation Hive
Post by: LazyBkpr on March 27, 2017, 01:16:28 am
Ted, are you stalling?  You were supposed to ask your brother if I could legally adopt him!   ;D
Title: Re: Portable Obsevation Hive
Post by: tedh on March 27, 2017, 09:48:37 am
Sorry Lazy but we can't do that.  I HAVE talked to the other brothers and we decided we could RENT him out for a mere pittance, just enough to "wet our beaks". 
Title: Re: Portable Obsevation Hive
Post by: LazyBkpr on April 02, 2017, 12:24:10 am
Sorry Lazy but we can't do that.  I HAVE talked to the other brothers and we decided we could RENT him out for a mere pittance, just enough to "wet our beaks".

   LOL You would be cheap but I fear the cost of wetting the other beaks!  ;D