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Re: Caution using Oxalic Acid Vapor
« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2015, 01:07:33 am »
I find it useful to place a lit smoker on top of the hive, the smoke trail tells you immediately how the air currents are moving.  Easy to avoid that way.  :-)

That wouldn't help me.  Smoke follows beauty.   8)
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Re: Caution using Oxalic Acid Vapor
« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2015, 01:12:40 am »
I went to the VA emergency room and seen a doc.
They said I had pneumonia.
Ain't got a clue how I got that.
I told them of the Oxalic Acid vapor and they had to look it up.
I am showing no signs of chemical poisoning at this time but I still have some test results I'm waiting for.
They run a camera down my throat and down into my lungs and so far no chemical contamination.
But what I've read about it so far I am going to use a respirator.
Whew! so far so good cept for the pneumonia part.

Get well soon!
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Re: Caution using Oxalic Acid Vapor
« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2015, 10:27:00 am »
Get well quick Capt44, then get a pneumonia shot. :yes: Once you've had pneumonia they tell me your more susceptible to it in the future :o I remember the doc coming to our home when i was 6 or 7 years old and told mom that i had Whooping cough and pneumonia (at the same time) gave me a shot? and told mom if i made it through the night that i would probably be alright, :o that he would check me in the mourning. Mom and dad stayed up all  night keeping me cool with a cool wet wash cloth. Needless to say i was afraid to go to sleep. Times have sure changed (for the Good) Jack

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Re: Caution using Oxalic Acid Vapor
« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2015, 10:27:49 am »
I find it useful to place a lit smoker on top of the hive, the smoke trail tells you immediately how the air currents are moving.  Easy to avoid that way.  :-)



That wouldn't help me.  Smoke follows beauty.   8)

An objective test, eh?  ;-)
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Re: Caution using Oxalic Acid Vapor
« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2015, 10:55:59 am »
Well here I go again.
I wound up with an infection on one of my old stomach scars.
Wound up in the hospital and now I'm home with a big hole in my belly.
Home health comes by everyday and treats it.
I told the surgeon doc that whatever happens let it happen now for I'm booked up come spring.
So here I go again, ain't my first rodeo.
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Re: Caution using Oxalic Acid Vapor
« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2015, 11:17:56 am »
Hey Capt, lets think positive here, good things are yet to come. :yes: Jack

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Re: Caution using Oxalic Acid Vapor
« Reply #26 on: November 14, 2015, 11:53:54 am »
You have some time until you get out there with the bees, I hope you heal and rest until necessity calls for your rested self.  :-)
« Last Edit: November 14, 2015, 07:05:38 pm by Lburou »
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Re: Caution using Oxalic Acid Vapor
« Reply #27 on: November 14, 2015, 04:11:35 pm »
Sorry to hear Capt. Hoping you heal fast with no more complications.
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Re: Caution using Oxalic Acid Vapor
« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2015, 09:34:54 pm »
Well this isn't my first rodeo with my stomach.
It's from surgeries I had when I had colon cancer , which I'm cancer free.
Had 3 hernias on my stomach a couple of years back so they put a mesh in and it worked perfect cept for one thing.
The Doc thinks my body doesn't want to accept it and it could be causing the flare ups.
I told her it's good it's taking place now cause I'm booked up in the spring raising honey bee queens. lol
But she said the mesh may have to come out. :-X
Oh well I'm a tough ole bird.
I was feeding 2-1 sugar syrup today to some week hives I merged.
Now the home health nurse will probably scold me in the mawn'n for workin'.
I done told them I ain't gonna set down and dry up, I stay active.
Sooooo it's the same ole thang just a different day.
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Re: Caution using Oxalic Acid Vapor
« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2015, 10:40:36 pm »
Dang Capt...   take it easy and get well so you CAN raise those queens!
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Re: Caution using Oxalic Acid Vapor
« Reply #30 on: November 15, 2015, 10:58:49 pm »
LOL capt!  tough ol bird eh?!....you keep on 'riding' in the 'rodeo'!!!!.......... :D :D :D

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Re: Caution using Oxalic Acid Vapor
« Reply #31 on: November 16, 2015, 11:04:12 am »
Look who's calling someone a tough old bird. If a squirt can survive everything she's been through,you shouldn't have any problems.  :laugh: :laugh: Jack

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Re: Caution using Oxalic Acid Vapor
« Reply #32 on: November 16, 2015, 07:20:20 pm »
LOL jack!!! i just keep riding in the rodeo no matter what, like many of us do!  sometimes good outcome sometimes not........lol..........!!!! 
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Re: Caution using Oxalic Acid Vapor
« Reply #33 on: November 23, 2015, 01:13:06 pm »
Yesterday  and today I made a second round of OA vapor treatments to my hives.  I hadn't intended to give two treatments
(two weeks apart) but last week, when looking through the hives I spotted a varroa mite on the back of  a worker in one of my hives and figured that maybe my treatment wasn't thorough enough.  The reason for my thinking so is not only because of the mite I spotted but because, when vaporizing the hives, I didn't see any real quantities of OA vapor coming out and I thought that maybe the job wasn't done thoroughly enough.  To be honest, both times I applied OA,  I barely saw any vapor, if any at all, from most of the hives. 
The only thing that I did really differently from the instructions I read and the videos I watched was that I used a car battery charger (not a battery) as my source of power.  I put the settings on 24 V at Rapid  charge rate.  When I first tested these settings outside a hive to see how it worked, the OA powder vaporized nicely.  When I removed the vaporizer from the hives, (after 5 minutes with currrent and a two minute waiting period before removal) the copper pan was pretty clean, with only a small amount of residue left behind.
Can any one put my mind at ease or make any suggestions?
One thing I can say with certainty about the OA treatment is that the bees seemed to be totally unfazed by it all.  I opened two hives a few minutes after giving the treatment and behavior was completely normal---the bees were calmly going about their business as if nothing had been done to them at all.
Lee, I thank you for your brilliant suggestion  about leaving the smoker nearby the hive so the direction of the smoke could warn you about the movement of the OA vapor.

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Re: Caution using Oxalic Acid Vapor
« Reply #34 on: November 23, 2015, 02:19:27 pm »
My varrox  vaporizer needs 12 volts to heat up the pan. It takes 4 minutes to burn off the oxalic acid crystals.  If you didn’t see any crystals in the pan, you got a good burn. Check your mite drop after 24 hours. If you see a lot of mites treat again  5 to 7 days. your battery charger should be set to the 12v scale. not the 24v. clip on the red vaporizer clip to the red charger clip, black to black with the other one. should work now.
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Re: Caution using Oxalic Acid Vapor
« Reply #35 on: November 23, 2015, 04:36:27 pm »
 I treated mine about three weeks ago and saw quite a few mites in the oil pan. Went back 12 days  later and could not get the vaporizer to work tried it 3 times on one hive and 2 times on the other. Have to try it in the spring for I don't have the money to buy another one now that Christmas is coming up.

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Re: Caution using Oxalic Acid Vapor
« Reply #36 on: November 23, 2015, 04:46:13 pm »
Ken, the electronics on the vaporizer are really quite simple: an electric circuit that heats up a resistance element that produces heat. If it isn't working, you probably have a disconnected or loose wire at some point which causes a broken circuit.  Check it out carefully and fix it yourself for free without having to pay a cent.  If you don't feel confident enough to do the job yourself, I'm sure you can find  a friend willing to give you a hand. ;)

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Re: Caution using Oxalic Acid Vapor
« Reply #37 on: November 23, 2015, 06:49:53 pm »
 Thanks efmesch, since I was a journal electrification for 15 years and got tired of traveling and supporting two homes I got a job that started out not paying as much as an apartment maintain supervisor  for 25 years, just a little background. I did test it and to best of my knowledge it is the gloo plug burned up, don't know where they got it but cannot find one like it around these parts, plus the screw holding it in was so corroded that it broke off taking the plug out.

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Re: Caution using Oxalic Acid Vapor
« Reply #38 on: November 23, 2015, 06:59:21 pm »
If you have a question about your equipment or your methods boil a little water in the vaporizer

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Re: Caution using Oxalic Acid Vapor
« Reply #39 on: November 23, 2015, 07:07:32 pm »
KB, we have seen the glow plug have a high resistance in the threads after a few uses, You may try backing it out and re tightening. I would like a pm or post if you find the problem even if it is a burnout. Thanks