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Bee Venom Therapy, or BVT
« on: December 21, 2013, 09:12:36 pm »
My wife will not work the bees with me. NO, NO, NO.

Yet she does use BVT for pain. She said tonight she wants a shot tomorrow, rain or shine. She has been using stings for neck and back pain for about 3 years, and is quite happy with the results. She says the stings hurt much less than the cortisone shots, and work longer.
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Re: Bee Venom Therapy, or BVT
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2013, 09:22:54 pm »
I had a cortisone shot in my back one time, never again. It hurt me worse than the back pain and for about 1 1/2 years.
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Re: Bee Venom Therapy, or BVT
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2013, 12:32:20 pm »
wheres ole jaybird she sould chime in on this thread
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Re: Bee Venom Therapy, or BVT
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2013, 12:36:53 pm »
That's young miss jaybird to you,Mistah!!   :o
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Re: Bee Venom Therapy, or BVT
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2013, 12:43:23 pm »
I had worked my way up to 11 at a time when I had Lyme.


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Re: Bee Venom Therapy, or BVT
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2013, 01:05:07 pm »
I gave her 3 yesterday. Two on the back of the neck, one in the small of her back. She is baking cookies today, free of pain.
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Re: Bee Venom Therapy, or BVT
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2013, 01:59:14 pm »
You had Lyme at one time Robo? I have been nailed numerous times by ticks, and even the black legged deer tick that is notorious for carrying Lyme. I've been tested negative, and the last time I got a whollop of meds to take right after one, that was about as difficult a thing to keep down as anything.
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Re: Bee Venom Therapy, or BVT
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2013, 03:16:17 pm »
That's young miss jaybird to you,Mistah!!   :o

yes where is that young lady at
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Re: Bee Venom Therapy, or BVT
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2013, 07:11:36 pm »
Hi Minniemo! thank you for the pers message. It's nice if I get a pers message cause it shows I'm needed somewhere else on the forum. Otherwise I just argue sugar syrup rebellion all day long! Still tossing that one around in my bee venom head. Let me read this post and see if I can help with some questions or solutions. Be right back
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Re: Bee Venom Therapy, or BVT
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2013, 07:28:49 pm »
Hi Iddee  :)

Oooo this is so much fun, rolling up my sleeves.

May I ask why your wife has back pain?

Cortizone shots have their place in the medical world, however, there are hazards to be considered. Such as cortizone shots can eat up the cartilage between the joints, quickly. Many practitioners will not tell you that. What the doc does know is that they have a patient in pain sitting across from them and they want the pain to go away Now!

For those of us who are loosing the cartilage for a number of reasons, that could be of great concern. 
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« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2013, 07:30:57 pm »
G3- Assuming that your shot was located somewhere on or near your spine, it's quite possible that the needle hit or agrivated or damaged a nerve. Sorry that happened to you!
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Re: Bee Venom Therapy, or BVT
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2013, 07:32:05 pm »
Iddee, well I'm not That young, but young at heart  ;)
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Re: Bee Venom Therapy, or BVT
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2013, 07:33:59 pm »
Robo, is your pic an arm or a leg? and why do you sting there?
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Re: Bee Venom Therapy, or BVT
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2013, 07:36:04 pm »
You had Lyme at one time Robo?

Yes,  i had/have neurological Lyme to the point of loosing my eye sight.  I went 8 months with all the specialist telling me there is nothing wrong with you.    I finally ended up search out one of the best Lyme doctors in the country and went to him.  Took me almost a year and a half to get back to "normal".   I have been fortunate to control it by diet now.  Going on 2 years since I have taken any antibiotics.  During the recovery, I was on more antibiotics than I can count on both hands and both feet.   I had a picc line for 10 weeks and gave myself daily injections.

I was also very fortunate to meet  and be tutored by Amber Rose who is a bee sting expert.  She was taught by Charles Mraz and traveled the world practicing BVT with him.    She has also written a book called "Bee in Balance".  What is unique about her approach is that she is a licensed acupuncturist.  She used bee stings instead of needles on the body meridian points.

If your interested, we did two podcasts with her on Wildlife Pro Network.  You can find them in the list of podcasts here -> http://beevac.com/wildlife-pro-network-beekeeping-podcasts/

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Re: Bee Venom Therapy, or BVT
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2013, 07:44:33 pm »
Robo- and incidently bee venom therapy has a record of remarkable results with Lymes. I hope you had success with your endeavor :)
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« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2013, 07:49:17 pm »
Robo!! Amber Rose?? Wow! Her book is the one I use when working with my clients! Marvelous book! You were in good hands my friend!

And what a journey in healing you went thru. How are you now?
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Re: Bee Venom Therapy, or BVT
« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2013, 07:50:48 pm »
Jaybird, I don't know what it is. My niece had an operation where they cut from the front of her throat to the backbone and fused the bones together. My wife and I had/have the same type pain. They wanted to operate on me the same way last February, but I said I would hold off until I could try BVT in the spring. 3 to 4 stings per day, 4 to 6 days per week, for two months and I have no more problems. My wife takes 1 to 3 stings every 4 to 6 months and the pain is gone.
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Re: Bee Venom Therapy, or BVT
« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2013, 07:55:38 pm »
Iddee, that is amazing news. It is possible that once the inflamation is reduced in the joint, that cartilage will rebuild again. Have either you or you wife been in a car accident?
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Re: Bee Venom Therapy, or BVT
« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2013, 07:59:41 pm »
My brother in law has suffered from lyme the last two years.  He is much better than the first year but he wakes up some days and just can't get moving.  He would be interested in benefits from venom for it for sure.

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« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2013, 08:34:50 pm »
Her, NO. Me, none that caused a neck injury. My niece, no.
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