great discussion!
"Full round veil would be a serious bonus to the ultra breeze. I have two, a coat and a full suit. When it is HOT out, I praise that suit every time the breeze blows and it feels like AC blowing through it, but have also been annoyed at the veil.
I don't wear gloves, even if I have to wear the suit, so I just flick the veil with a thumb and the sweat stuck in the mesh vanishes.
It has it's disadvantages, but the security I feel when wearing it more than makes up for the insecurities I have felt wearing other suits in the past. A bee can still get you through the ultra breeze, but it has to be tight for that to happen."thanks scott, i would like the pros of the ultra breeze, cool, compared to my bee suits! protection? about the same i think, suit tight against the skin or she found a crinkle or nitch or just got in somewhere...........
it would be very
cool if ultra breeze designed these with a round veil!
"Does anyone have a Guardian suit with the zipper to open the veil? They are new since last year when they had a kickstarter. I found out about them by watching this somewhat cheesy video
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mcedwar.....no, i do not have one of these. i watched the video (thank you) but no thank you. again limited vision in this veil, very limited vision with the way this is made and would drive me for the way it sits on the back of the head. the zip off front design? guess one needs to be away from the bees to be eating ice cream and drinking water. bees getting into the veil of a zippered suit is usually operator error, so one is going to get stung if a bee gets inadvertently trapped in. and yes i have zipped up a bee suit and attached zipped bee veil to wonder..........IS SHE ON THE INSIDE OR THE OUTSIDE.........
my mistake. or unless one has a hole in it somewhere.....
if you want instant acess to your face, just walk away from the bees some distance, or a safe distance with cranky bees and remove your veil. just my HO!
"I strongly dislike the fencing veil as well. I bought a full round veil with a zipper and had a seamstress in our Club sew it on my ventilated jacket -I gave the fencing veil away. The round veil has larger holes in it, allowing better visualization of the honeycombs.
I wear a real pith helmet like THIS or THIS inside that round veil. The so-called 'pith helmets' sold by bee suppliers have narrow brims and do not fit well because they allow the seam for the veil to slip down until it obstructs my forward frame of view. Those imitation pith helmets don't last very long either. The genuine pith helmet is fairly cool to wear in the heat, it insulates from the top."lee, great idea to sew the full round veil on the ventilated jacket. the round veils do have better vision! i do have 2 pith helmets and have used the veils that fit these. funny thing is, similiar to your links of pith helmets, the ones i own......... i wear them backwards, they work better for me that way.......the veil doesn't slip. mine are older, they have a short brim in the front and long brim in the back so i flipped the long brim to the front and the short brim to the back......
