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Title: Shirt Designs
Post by: Zweefer on May 06, 2022, 12:47:34 pm
So I recently went in with a friend of mine on some printing equipment (DTF, Silk Screen, and Sublimation), so now we are having to learn the ins and outs of the process.
This entails everything from design to the actual printing.

Anyhow, here is one I came up with yesterday - it is a list of the crops pollenated by honeybees (according to Wikipedia that is).

It will be printed on a shirt for sure (as I want one), but may try to scale to see how small I can go - might blow it up to a poster as well, who knows?

(https://i.ibb.co/J26bryc/Bee-Pollination.png) (https://ibb.co/92KfyVp)

I also redid our logo for the local Keepers Association


(https://i.ibb.co/TMyFJ0T/CVBKA-Logo-Prepared.png) (https://ibb.co/TMyFJ0T)

Once I get these down, I will work on shirts for us here...
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: The15thMember on May 06, 2022, 02:06:33 pm
That pollination crop one is super cool!  My only complaint is that "Peach" is too large.  It takes over the design too much, as if peaches are somehow the most important crop.  If that was more equal in size to the other large-fonted crops, I'd buy that shirt in a heartbeat. 
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: Zweefer on May 06, 2022, 02:27:56 pm
do you have a crop you like more?  The software that sets it up picks one at random unless I dictate what word it should be...
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: Zweefer on May 06, 2022, 02:38:06 pm
Here is another, generated at random....

(https://i.ibb.co/mGPttB8/Screenshot-2022-05-06-133300.png) (https://ibb.co/mGPttB8)

This one changes the direction of the words:

(https://i.ibb.co/MPrcxZ1/82.png) (https://ibb.co/MPrcxZ1)

here is random directions:

(https://i.ibb.co/Xy0L8XX/random.png) (https://ibb.co/Xy0L8XX)

I added the word pollination as the focus for this one:

(https://i.ibb.co/8MjLXcp/Screenshot-2022-05-06-133049.png) (https://ibb.co/8MjLXcp)

Or if we are going with the idea that the most important is the largest...  ;)


(https://i.ibb.co/QPY3B88/15th.png) (https://ibb.co/QPY3B88)

I am genuinely curious what you would think best as the larger word?  I never really gave it any thought until you said something...

And what exactly do you have against peaches?  :o

Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: Zweefer on May 06, 2022, 03:03:34 pm
I was able to tweak the size after all - see, a learning process!  :eusa_dance:


(https://i.ibb.co/qWy52Vw/image.png) (https://ibb.co/qWy52Vw)

The only downside is that now some words need to be repeated to fill in the gaps - not really noticeable unless someone is staring at your shirt for a long time...
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: .30WCF on May 06, 2022, 05:46:34 pm
Looks pretty cool. Look nice on a tumbler too.
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: The15thMember on May 06, 2022, 06:28:05 pm
Or if we are going with the idea that the most important is the largest...  ;)


(https://i.ibb.co/QPY3B88/15th.png) (https://ibb.co/QPY3B88)

:laugh:  I am DEFINITELY NOT the most important member here.  I'd nominate iddee for the spot. 

And what exactly do you have against peaches?  :o
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!  Don't you DARE spread lies that I hate peaches!!   >:(  Peaches are sublime.   O:-)  We haven't been able to get good peaches for several years where we live and there has been a hole in my life.   :'(  We found a local orchard that has peaches, so we're going to try and get some from them this year. 
 
I was able to tweak the size after all - see, a learning process!  :eusa_dance:


(https://i.ibb.co/qWy52Vw/image.png) (https://ibb.co/qWy52Vw)

The only downside is that now some words need to be repeated to fill in the gaps - not really noticeable unless someone is staring at your shirt for a long time...
I like it WAY better with the words all of similar size.  I don't think it's a big deal that the words are repeated.  Like you say, unless someone sat down and read the whole shirt, it wouldn't be noticeable.  Not only is it better visually, but it doesn't place undue emphasis on any particular crop.  I also like the words just horizontal.  I think the vertical and random direction words are too hard to read.   
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: Zweefer on May 06, 2022, 07:27:08 pm
So how many should I put you down for?  :laugh:

I agree that all about the same size looks better - thanks for the push.   

back to original topic -
Just got confirmation my practice shirts should arrive end of next week, and then I just need to find time to try a few things out... I'll post with updates as they come.

Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: The15thMember on May 06, 2022, 07:29:37 pm
So how many should I put you down for?  :laugh:
One and I'm not kidding.  :)
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: .30WCF on May 06, 2022, 11:41:52 pm
I thought you were buying my t-shirt! :cry:
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: The15thMember on May 07, 2022, 12:06:05 am
I thought you were buying my t-shirt! :cry:
I will buy yours too, and I’m also not kidding!  I wonder if Zweefer gives focus group discounts like you do. . . ;)
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: .30WCF on May 07, 2022, 07:34:10 am
Zweefer,
I’m just picking with 15. I’m not hijacking your thread.


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Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: Zweefer on May 08, 2022, 07:50:01 am
Y’all are perfectly fine.
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: LazyBkpr on May 08, 2022, 11:13:39 am
So.. the second design, save the bees... with WorldwideBeekeeping.com on top and keeping the bees alive worldwide under the logo?  Next question...  color of the design and words variable? IE a black shirt with colored logo like the WWB shirts we already have?
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: Zweefer on May 08, 2022, 10:15:56 pm
I guess I'm confused...
The Worldwide beekeeping shirts will be our logo - same as the ones before:

(https://i.ibb.co/r3nWnvk/reworked-logo-FINAL.jpg) (https://ibb.co/r3nWnvk)

If you are asking me to design one like our association logo, I certainly could...

Color of the design - for our logo it is pretty much set.   The variety will be in the style and color of the shirt / hoodie/ whatever you want me to print on.
Once I know I can print these without messing up, I'll start a new thread with order info for the forum shirts.   anything else, I guess it would have to be on an individual basis.  I wasn't planning on soliciting orders, I was just excited about the designs  ;D

 As for other ideas. I have access to pretty much any color that can be made via your standard RGB combo.
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: Zweefer on May 08, 2022, 10:37:44 pm
Without changing any font or colors - Is this what you were thinking Lazy?

(https://i.ibb.co/C7GrZ1R/image.png) (https://ibb.co/C7GrZ1R)

As for customization...

(https://i.ibb.co/m6C82fM/image.png) (https://ibb.co/m6C82fM)



Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: LazyBkpr on May 08, 2022, 10:41:09 pm
Thats it! exactly what i was thinking...    I still have the two I bought, I take pretty good care of them, wear them to meetings etc only...   I didn't know if there would ever be more...   I WOULD like to get another one of those, and a couple of this design too...   so just let me know if your interested in doing that..  No worries if your not, I am still hoarding the original!!!!    :yes:
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: Zweefer on May 08, 2022, 10:55:59 pm
We will definitely have more logoed shirts once I get up and running.
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: Zweefer on May 10, 2022, 06:27:09 pm
We set up the shop today - should have the first shirt printed by end of week! 
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: The15thMember on May 10, 2022, 09:27:47 pm
 :eusa_dance:
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: Zweefer on May 13, 2022, 04:46:47 pm
Screen finished, first inking to commence after dinner!  Photos will be forthcoming!
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: LazyBkpr on May 14, 2022, 12:13:36 am
LOL WHY am I so excited?
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: Zweefer on May 14, 2022, 08:06:50 am
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220514/f1d13cb608a21bcfa9f798ddef9302ac.jpg)
 


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Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: The15thMember on May 14, 2022, 11:15:03 am
LOL WHY am I so excited?
I know, right! It's just a shirt, but I'm like fired up about it!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220514/f1d13cb608a21bcfa9f798ddef9302ac.jpg)
They look great, Zweef!
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: LazyBkpr on May 14, 2022, 05:39:48 pm
Oh yeah those look nice!!!
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: Zweefer on May 16, 2022, 12:10:09 pm
Well, the training / education continues.   Today’s lesson is sublimation.   Potential oops as I almost forgot to mirror the image. If I pressed this, it would be backwards.   Fixed it and will be ready to go soon…
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220516/1d18b2ec9ffd98015ed46be2c1af78db.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220516/c2ca84690ce8e2c550a26eddcc1f2917.jpg)


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Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: Zweefer on May 16, 2022, 05:04:08 pm
Whelp. It’s a learning experience.   I put too much pressure on the press…

You can see both where the press and paper were.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220516/313c382a85cb7796a4020c30df3361fc.jpg)



Print was beautiful though!
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220516/4810ba025e45b74fbdc717a0ca850835.jpg)

I guess I’ll have to keep trying till I get it dialed in. 


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Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: The15thMember on May 16, 2022, 07:18:11 pm
Whelp. It’s a learning experience.   I put too much pressure on the press…

You can see both where the press and paper were.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220516/313c382a85cb7796a4020c30df3361fc.jpg)



Print was beautiful though!
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220516/4810ba025e45b74fbdc717a0ca850835.jpg)

I guess I’ll have to keep trying till I get it dialed in. 


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Oh man, that's going to be great!  Hey, how are you supposed to learn other than trying?  :yes: 

Can I make a suggestion?  It may just be the camera angle, but I think that design looks a little small and a little high up on the shirt.   
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: Zweefer on May 16, 2022, 10:20:59 pm
Second attempt after several adjustments:

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220517/ef368960d0dba49290603770e7895a3d.jpg)

And here it is on on a person for scale and location:


(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220517/09589e4c8604ec5e9bd2d3967bea6ee0.jpg)

... I think that design looks a little small and a little high up on the shirt.   

If I move it down, it looks weird as the bulk of the bee makes it seem too low then.  I played with it a bit, and settled on the wing being high.

Maybe I'll look for a different piece of art to use...  I love the design on paper, but on a shirt?  spacing is too nuanced.

Title: Shirt Designs
Post by: .30WCF on May 16, 2022, 10:41:02 pm
Is your avatar pic something you came up with. I like it. I have some shirts that are a little retro/Nintendo’esque.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220517/42443460bb56e4bd4d9c623c4d868b3a.jpg)


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Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: The15thMember on May 16, 2022, 10:54:00 pm
Second attempt after several adjustments:

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220517/ef368960d0dba49290603770e7895a3d.jpg)

And here it is on on a person for scale and location:


(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220517/09589e4c8604ec5e9bd2d3967bea6ee0.jpg)

... I think that design looks a little small and a little high up on the shirt.   

If I move it down, it looks weird as the bulk of the bee makes it seem too low then.  I played with it a bit, and settled on the wing being high.

Maybe I'll look for a different piece of art to use...  I love the design on paper, but on a shirt?  spacing is too nuanced.


That looks MUCH better.  Now that it's larger, it's fine where it is on the shirt.  And you got rid of the stamping square!  :goodjob: 

Is your avatar pic something you came up with. I like it. I have some shirts that are a little retro/Nintendo’esque.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220517/42443460bb56e4bd4d9c623c4d868b3a.jpg)
Oh my gosh, Micah, I was going to say the same thing the other day and then I forgot about it.  I was totally thinking that Zweefer's avatar would make a great shirt.  It's like our minds are connected or something. . . .  :o 
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: LazyBkpr on May 17, 2022, 12:20:16 am
Holy cow why did you hire an expensive MODEL to show off that shirt Zweef?
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: Zweefer on May 17, 2022, 07:12:29 am
He owed me a favor lazy.

It was a pressure thing 15th.

Lookin good .30!  How many frames you knockin' out?
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: .30WCF on May 17, 2022, 07:16:53 am
That was back in the spring. I think I made about 50 that day.


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Title: Shirt Designs
Post by: Zweefer on May 17, 2022, 10:04:38 am
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220517/2c93f7903e1de3b6b1e66bcde0ff43de.jpg)

What do we think of this

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220517/55a4b6d57fd6d02a8bbc9d68f8b24167.jpg)

Or this one?
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: The15thMember on May 17, 2022, 10:20:13 am
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220517/2c93f7903e1de3b6b1e66bcde0ff43de.jpg)
What do we think of this(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220517/55a4b6d57fd6d02a8bbc9d68f8b24167.jpg)
Or this one?
I recognize that first one!  :)  I like that one a little less than the original, just because I think the original pose for the bee really looks like it's flying, which I think goes well with the pollination theme.  Also, this design appears to be missing antennae.  :-X

I'm really not partial to the second one, where the bee is top down.  Most bee designs look like this, and it's FAR less unique than the bee from the side. 
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: Zweefer on May 17, 2022, 10:22:33 am
that's why I went with first design.    antennae were too small to fit printable words on other one.

Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: The15thMember on May 17, 2022, 10:25:11 am
that's why I went with first design.    antennae were too small to fit printable words on other one.
Yeah, that makes sense.  Maybe I'm picky, but I don't like it without antennae.  It just doesn't look right without them to me. 
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: Zweefer on May 17, 2022, 10:42:40 am
well, I won't mess with a good thing then. 
Original design stays.
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: Bakersdozen on May 17, 2022, 10:44:42 am
I agree with 15th.

Am I looking at the Montgomery Wards catalog?  Look at all these models!
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: Zweefer on May 17, 2022, 10:45:42 am
Color printing next!

that means our logo is on the docket!!!!
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: LazyBkpr on May 17, 2022, 07:19:16 pm
 :t3816:
Title: Shirt Designs
Post by: Zweefer on May 19, 2022, 09:52:20 pm
Not as happy with this one.  I will redo the logo to include the black around the orange, and work with the shadows a bit more…. It just seems a bit too crisp if that makes sense?

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220520/3e7c99e221c23c22615705bc834cf56b.jpg)


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Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: LazyBkpr on May 19, 2022, 11:06:25 pm
That actually looks pretty good, but you do have to stop spending our donations on those fancy chip and dale shirt models!
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: The15thMember on May 19, 2022, 11:09:07 pm
Not as happy with this one.  I will redo the logo to include the black around the orange, and work with the shadows a bit more…. It just seems a bit too crisp if that makes sense?

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220520/3e7c99e221c23c22615705bc834cf56b.jpg)


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Oh, that's weird.  I totally see what you mean.  Hm. . . .  I think it would help if the cast shadowing on the letters was closer to them, and not so separated.  Like if you look at the logo on the website, the tops of the letters are mostly lined up with the shadowing, not staggered to the right.  (Am I making sense? :-\ )  I'm not sure what to do about the crispiness, but I agree.  Perhaps fuzzing out the shadows a little more?  Edit: My artist sister just walked in, she said making the shadow of the letters fuzzy will fix it. 

That actually looks pretty good, but you do have to stop spending our donations on those fancy chip and dale shirt models!
:D
You mean like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stqG2ihMvP0

Our shirt model is even better than either of those two, on the grounds of his awesome facial hair alone!   :yes:
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: LazyBkpr on May 19, 2022, 11:34:27 pm
AHH! That has to be it!!!!!!
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: Zweefer on May 29, 2022, 02:25:33 pm
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220529/ebc9d90fb2660545dfd031a630a1018f.jpg)
I think that fixes it.


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Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: Jen on May 29, 2022, 02:51:31 pm
That looks really nice Zweefer.
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: Jen on May 29, 2022, 04:24:37 pm
Hi Zweefer, this thread has been fun to follow. So, to complicate things further... In the future, what do you think about having whats called the 'feminine cut' tshirt, and a tank top?

The feminine cut is simply shorter sleeves, or some say french cut sleeves, and the neck line is wider.

The tank top can be the standard men's cut that can fit both men and women.
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: LazyBkpr on May 29, 2022, 09:27:47 pm
Jen will model it for us!      O:-)
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: Zweefer on May 30, 2022, 08:54:59 am
@Jen (https://worldwidebeekeeping.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=95) the tough part was getting the printing down.  the easy part is what to print on.   I can absolutely accommodate you on this one.  :yes:
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: The15thMember on May 30, 2022, 11:19:57 am
Jen will model it for us!      O:-)
But will she be as talented a model as the pro that Zweefer keeps hiring?  8)
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: Jen on May 30, 2022, 11:53:50 am
Lazy, model it?... You Betcha! Worldwide Beekeeping tank and jammie pants  :laugh:

15th, a talented model? Absolutely! ... however you won't see the WWE Bee Buffness example of Zweefer's model  :D
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: The15thMember on May 30, 2022, 12:40:30 pm
15th, a talented model? Absolutely! ... however you won't see the WWE Bee Buffness example of Zweefer's model  :D
:laugh:  You mean this isn't you, Jen??  Based on your avatar picture I figured it was!!   
 
(https://i.ibb.co/6NzG79T/3-Q-1587423574.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6NzG79T)

I guess not everyone can be as good looking as Zweefer's model.  :yes:
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: Jen on May 30, 2022, 01:00:08 pm
Close but no cigar 15th! Only I would never cover my brunette silver locks for blonde.

That reminds me, I gotta change that avatar photo  ;)
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: LazyBkpr on May 30, 2022, 04:47:44 pm
You Betcha! Worldwide Beekeeping tank and jammie pants


   LOL It could be the start to a new career!
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: Jen on May 30, 2022, 05:05:56 pm
Jammie Jen Beekeeper Extraordinaire... at your service  :laugh:
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: Zweefer on June 10, 2022, 12:22:59 am

(https://i.postimg.cc/XqsCKBWQ/rum.png) (https://postimg.cc/n9QrpzCD)

Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: LazyBkpr on June 10, 2022, 08:02:46 am
hohooo  I like that too!!!

Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: tedh on June 10, 2022, 08:14:02 am
Heck yeah!  I don't even drink and I love it!  Ted
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: Zweefer on June 10, 2022, 08:39:23 am
I figured you would Lazy  ;D
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: Zweefer on June 10, 2022, 09:46:18 am
I made one for the company @LazyBkpr (https://worldwidebeekeeping.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=67) hires out.  @tedh (https://worldwidebeekeeping.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=299) may want to weigh in on this one as well...

(https://i.postimg.cc/wvVXGCxW/ted.png) (https://postimg.cc/TLK5yHDm)

I cant be tothered to work on it and fix the grass though...

Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: LazyBkpr on June 10, 2022, 04:06:37 pm
Oh my god! Thats so perfect! There was even a special BRUSH I wouldnt let anyone else use because it was Ted's brush!
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: tedh on June 10, 2022, 09:31:31 pm
I want a shirt with that printed on it! That's one of those rare things that are just....perfect!  Ted
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: Jen on June 11, 2022, 12:21:22 am
Zweefer, don't give that shirt to Ted unless he promises to model it right on this page!
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: RAST on June 14, 2022, 08:45:25 am
Here ya go.
 
(https://i.ibb.co/z44wdwZ/resized-shirt.jpg) (https://ibb.co/z44wdwZ)
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: Zweefer on June 14, 2022, 10:06:27 am
lookin good RAST!!!
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: Jen on June 14, 2022, 11:49:44 am
Hey RAST, not only is the WWE model a stunning example, I sure like that honey colored shirt!
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: The15thMember on June 14, 2022, 02:09:21 pm
Hey RAST, not only is the WWE model a stunning example, I sure like that honey colored shirt!
I agree!  It looks great in that color!
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: Zweefer on June 14, 2022, 02:30:56 pm
Hey RAST, not only is the WWE model a stunning example, I sure like that honey colored shirt!
I believe that is “Old Gold” on the color chart (https://chippewavalleybeekeepers.com/pubfiles/Shirt%20Colors.pdf).
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: LazyBkpr on June 14, 2022, 04:26:59 pm
NICE!!!!!!
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: RAST on June 15, 2022, 08:09:37 am
Yes, Old Gold
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: LazyBkpr on January 09, 2023, 09:43:00 am
Still doing the t shirts Zweef? I'd order a couple more when your stomping them out again!
Title: Re: Shirt Designs
Post by: Zweefer on January 09, 2023, 11:12:03 am
Yes, still have everything in the shop - just drop me a PM with the details and we’ll go from there.