Worldwide Beekeeping
Sustainable Living => Homestead => Topic started by: .30WCF on October 02, 2022, 05:30:50 pm
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I have an 1100sqf house in central NC. I have been running a England or Summers Heat, or whatever brand and you want to call it, in 2000sqf flavor stove for about 5 years. I got the 2k size cause it was a deal at the time, and I thought I’d rather have overkill than underkill. Now, I only ever run 2 splits and a time. If I burn 3 splits, you can’t stand it, and I get a little worried if I see 650-700 on the stovetop since the book says 600, if I recall correctly. That’s probably just my naive self, trying to follow the rules and all, but about 400 at the stove top is about right for the space as well.
I’ve been looking for about a year at other options. I’m was all about a nice enamel stove for a while, a soapstone, or something nice, but I don’t think I want to spend $3k till I know what fits.
My stove is also too big for the room aesthetically.
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So I’m thinking of trying out a smaller stove, but it looks like, in general, at 1100sqf, I’m either maxing out a stove, or right back where I am.
So do I keep slow rolling what I have, or go with an Drolet Fox2 https://www.drolet.ca/us/en/wood-stoves/db03186/ or US Stove Defender https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/p...defender-wood-burning-stove-on-legs-us1100e-l ? These meet my clearances without either building something or putting it further out into the living room of an already small room by using some 45* bends in the pipe.
I like the stepped stovetop and legs better on the Defender better. I like the fox on the door of the Fox, and its North American manufacturing gives me a fuzzier feeling.
The US is an E/W loader, and the Fox is a N/S loader. This means that the US is going to appear a little more inline with the wall than the Drolet, even though based off flue location, they will both extend into the room roughly the same.
Seems like for the size of them, the N/S loading will be better than trying to stuff a small box E/W, and potentially spilling against the glass as it burns down.
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Sounds like you need to fix your draft and keep what you have. With the draft fully closed, the fire should go out, even with 3 or 4 sticks.
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I’m familiar with how stoves used to run, but the newer stuff is EPA this and that. I suppose I could add a damper, but I’m not supposed to install it or need it. Newer stuff has very little air adjustment and no way to really shut them down.
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Pulled the trigger on a Vermont Castings Aspen C3. So far, so good. I’m still trying to learn it’s temperament, but I can feed it at bed time and relight off coals in the morning.
It also seems to fit the space a lot better than the old behemoth if anybody needs a used stove.
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Also got around to dragging out the old dynamite box out of the building for kindling. Been meaning to do that for a while.
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That new stove looks great, 30! We have two Vermont Castings fireplace inserts, and we LOVE them. Does yours have a catalytic converter? And that dynamite box is super cool! How old is it?
Some other random comments I have from snooping around your house in the photos.
1. I love that scalloped edge on your wall. That's really interesting. I like how you can see the books in the built-in shelves peeking around the corner.
2. I love that big clock on your wall above the sewing table. Does it chime?
3. What is that wooden thing hanging on the wall opposite the built-in with the scalloped edge?
4. As the president and currently sole member of the Society for the Humane Treatment of Books and Other Published Materials, I would highly recommend a bookend for the shelf to the left of the stove. ;) :yes:
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That new stove looks great, 30! We have two Vermont Castings fireplace inserts, and we LOVE them. Does yours have a catalytic converter? And that dynamite box is super cool! How old is it?
Some other random comments I have from snooping around your house in the photos.
1. I love that scalloped edge on your wall. That's really interesting. I like how you can see the books in the built-in shelves peeking around the corner.
2. I love that big clock on your wall above the sewing table. Does it chime?
3. What is that wooden thing hanging on the wall opposite the built-in with the scalloped edge?
4. As the president and currently sole member of the Society for the Humane Treatment of Books and Other Published Materials, I would highly recommend a bookend for the shelf to the left of the stove. ;) :yes:
The dynamite box came out of my wife?s Great Grandfather?s barn. I can?t give an exact age on it, but he bought some land around 100 years ago and cleared his own fields. I imagine that?s what happened to a stubborn stump. There were 5-6 of them in the barn, but only this one was salvageable.
1. Thanks.
2. Every 1/4 hr.
3. A drying rack. (Snow day last year)
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4. Those are books are kindling and fire starters. Jk. I plan on moving them and probably put some sand in some old tins for smothering a fire, and stove gloves and such on those shelves. I?ve got three fire extinguishers about, but I think if I just needed to calm down an over-fire, I would try to smother it some first before blasting chemicals everywhere.
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3. A drying rack. (Snow day last year)
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That is so cool! I've never seen anything like that! Is it an antique thing or something modern?
4. Those are books are kindling and fire starters. Jk.
:laugh: Hahaha! I completely fell for this. A jolt of real fear shot through me, and I actually had to read the sentence twice before I saw the "just kidding". :D
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4. As the president and currently sole member of the Society for the Humane Treatment of Books and Other Published Materials, I would highly recommend a bookend for the shelf to the left of the stove. ;) :yes:
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My husband wants to join your society! I am not allowed to touch his books unless I want to read one.
I, on the other hand, had to purge my years and years accumulation of Bee Culture and ABJ magazines yesterday. :sad: When you have no place for something you have to make a decision.
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4. As the president and currently sole member of the Society for the Humane Treatment of Books and Other Published Materials, I would highly recommend a bookend for the shelf to the left of the stove. ;) :yes:
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My husband wants to join your society! I am not allowed to touch his books unless I want to read one.
:D He's more than welcome! Membership is free and lifelong! And with another member I can reestablish democracy and not vote myself president every year. ;) ;D
I, on the other hand, had to purge my years and years accumulation of Bee Culture and ABJ magazines yesterday. :sad: When you have no place for something you have to make a decision.
That's sad. I hope "purge" doesn't mean "throw out". :o If you still have them, I'd seriously be willing to take them off your hands.
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3. A drying rack. (Snow day last year)
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That is so cool! I've never seen anything like that! Is it an antique thing or something modern?
4. Those are books are kindling and fire starters. Jk.
:laugh: Hahaha! I completely fell for this. A jolt of real fear shot through me, and I actually had to read the sentence twice before I saw the "just kidding". :D
It?s similar to this. They are antique.
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vintage-wall-mount-wood-arm-folding-1818312407
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4. As the president and currently sole member of the Society for the Humane Treatment of Books and Other Published Materials, I would highly recommend a bookend for the shelf to the left of the stove. ;) :yes:
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My husband wants to join your society! I am not allowed to touch his books unless I want to read one.
:D He's more than welcome! Membership is free and lifelong! And with another member I can reestablish democracy and not vote myself president every year. ;) ;D
I, on the other hand, had to purge my years and years accumulation of Bee Culture and ABJ magazines yesterday. :sad: When you have no place for something you have to make a decision.
That's sad. I hope "purge" doesn't mean "throw out". :o If you still have them, I'd seriously be willing to take them off your hands.
Membership is free and lifelong...yes it is.
The magazines are in the recycling bin. I can get them back out. If you really want them I will mail some to you. Send me a PM. Monday is trash day so let me know.
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4. As the president and currently sole member of the Society for the Humane Treatment of Books and Other Published Materials, I would highly recommend a bookend for the shelf to the left of the stove. ;) :yes:
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My husband wants to join your society! I am not allowed to touch his books unless I want to read one.
Mine go to the local bee club as a library/loaner type of thing. The new beeks really appreciate them and my trash man approves.
:D He's more than welcome! Membership is free and lifelong! And with another member I can reestablish democracy and not vote myself president every year. ;) ;D
I, on the other hand, had to purge my years and years accumulation of Bee Culture and ABJ magazines yesterday. :sad: When you have no place for something you have to make a decision.
That's sad. I hope "purge" doesn't mean "throw out". :o If you still have them, I'd seriously be willing to take them off your hands.
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"The magazines are in the recycling bin.""
Give the rest to the local bee club, for their library or to the members.
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"The magazines are in the recycling bin.""
Give the rest to the local bee club, for their library or to the members.
Too late, they're mine! :evil:
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"If you really want them I will mail some to you.""
She said SOME. I said donate the rest, after yours.
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"If you really want them I will mail some to you.""
She said SOME. I said donate the rest, after yours.
But I want those too. ;D
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Then there won't be a REST, will there? :P :)
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Unfortunately, some of them got dirty in the recycling bin. Since we have a bee club meeting Monday night, I will bundle a few to take as a door prize. (Sorry 15)
I could take them to the local bookstore to be resold, but the trip would cost more in gas than they would pay.
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"The magazines are in the recycling bin.""
Give the rest to the local bee club, for their library or to the members.
That's what I do with mine
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Unfortunately, some of them got dirty in the recycling bin. Since we have a bee club meeting Monday night, I will bundle a few to take as a door prize. (Sorry 15)
I could take them to the local bookstore to be resold, but the trip would cost more in gas than they would pay.
Fine, I guess I can share. . . . O:-)
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Well, today I stumbled into an antique store full of cool old stoves. Several were hooked up and burning.
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:o I love every single one of them!
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Tightening up around the stove. I was in Kansas last week and picked up some stuff at some junk shops I found. I’m gonna run these items a few weeks and see how we like them.
Got rid of the fire poker/tools stand and hung an acorn/pine cone rack behind the stove.
Probably gonna ditch the large cast kettle with this new smaller stove and go with the copper kettle.
Picked up a couple antique trivets.
The other option was I nabbed an orange enamel cast iron “bean pot” that I thought might make a good steamer. It will probably find its way into the kitchen or camp kitchen stuff.
Last is a blue enamel coffee pot.
I may keep the enamel pot, and something else as my sand buckets for smothering an over fire. I want 2-3 containers on the shelf with sand and/or baking soda that I can dump in the stove if needed. I have a couple old coffee tins I may bring in for that.
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A little New Years Day project.
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Wow! Nice looking stoves. PLEASE Don't let my wife see those!!!! :laugh:
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Seems I’ve settled in with an old smudge pot as a steamer for a while now. It fits well and lasts all day at 1qt capacity.
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I just noticed this thread and it is great. That store full of old stoves was incredible. My bride would have to have one of the cookstoves. :)
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Yep, Wife is after one, but we really have no good place to PUT it, it is the only hold out I have!