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Beekeeping => General Beekeeping => Topic started by: mamapoppybee on March 10, 2014, 03:15:05 pm
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these are the ones that are out and about here any one know there type?
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No clue. Tough to tell.
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here is another picture and if you click on it it makes it bigger in another tab.
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Hey mama :) what part of OK do you live in? northern, southern, western, eastern, central?
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central
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Kind of looks like the Mason Bee.
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I'm thinking mason bee as well, but I'm not sure. It would be the darker strips that may lead me that way. If it is a mason bee, they are lovely agreeable bees.
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hard to say mama, like apis, possibly a mason bee. wish omie were here. mason bees are similar in appearance to honey bees but are smaller and darker than the honey bee. they do emerge in the spring.
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Miner bees maybe
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Kinda looks like a Carniolan honey bee to me... or a Russian...
http://backyardbuzz.wordpress.com/major-types-of-honeybees/
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http://www.helpabee.org/common-bee-groups-of-ca.html (ftp://www.helpabee.org/common-bee-groups-of-ca.html)
Black Mason Bee
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well what ever they are they sure do love the sryrup i left them. started with just the one three days ago and now this is what i have!
Feeding them in the area im building the garden.
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Wow! They are lovin' it! a very striking bee for sure
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are they the same size as your honey bees or are they smaller. Yours are 1/4" wide X 1/2" long the first 2 pictures they looked small these new pictures they appear to be larger.
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i dont yet have any bee's to comjpare them to apis sorry and they are the same bees as previous pics tried to work my zoom on camra more so you can see them better.
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well, if you ask me now, looking at these pics, these are honey bees!
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now how to get these freebees?
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now how to get these freebees?
Swarm traps, swarm trap & more swarm traps.
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whats the best way to place the swarm traps?
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I don't believe there is any "correct" or "best" way to place swarm traps.
I think cavity size and baiting with old comb are most important, all the rest is minor. I know old comb is always a challenge for new beekeepers, so if you don't have a local beek who is willing to give you some, just remember:
Any swarm trap has a better chance of catching a swarm than no swarm trap.
Here is my experience with swarm traps -> http://beevac.com/swarm-traps/
Rob...
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Go hunting bee trees or some other beekeepers hive. Watch the direction the bees leave to return to their hive. Bees fly straight back to their hive when they have a full honey stomach.
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Robo posted his link so I didn't have to.. You can look at my site too mamaP.
Had a 62 degree day yesterday.. got me ALL fired up about going out and getting stuff done... supposed to snow tonight and tomorrow... :o >:(
Not spring yet, so you have some time to get ready for those bees you have lured in.
Catching a swarm is like... Winning the lottery.. you cant win if you dont buy a ticket!
Apis;
Go hunting bee trees or some other beekeepers hive. Watch the direction the bees leave to return to their hive. Bees fly straight back to their hive when they have a full honey stomach.
Always a LOT of fun trying to do this! BeeLining.. more fun than shed hunting, almost as much fun as Mushroom hunting!
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now how to get these freebees?
My two favorite words are "FREE BEES" !
You can buy a swarm trap or you can make your own. You can buy bait, or you can make your own.
I caught a swarm last year in a "flower pot" swarm trap. I had a cotton ball with a couple of drops of lemon grass oil on it as bait. You can read about it here (http://gregsbees.blogspot.com/2013/05/swarm-trap-installed.html).
You can also find a swarm out looking for a home. When people learn you're a beekeeper, they may call you if they see a swarm. I got one at work once. You can read about it here (http://gregsbees.blogspot.com/2012/08/1st-swarm-experience-and-i-got-to-help.html).
Swarms are comb building machines. They gorge themselves with food and stuff to make wax before they leave, so they're ready to build a house when they find a suitable spot.
This year I am going to set out an empty hive with frames and comb and hopefully lure a swarm into it.
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this is one of those what if questions so here gose what if i used my empty hive and placed it near the area i am feeding? No lemon grass oil yet think i may have some jasmine though? how well wold this work. Trying to use what i have on hand. an i know cuss me if its a bad idea.
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If you are in swarm season already, I would forgo the jasmine (never heard of it as a swarm lure) and put your feeder right inside your empty hive.
Rob...
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Go to a health food store or Amazon and get a little bit of lemon grass oil. It will last forever. You only need a few drops on a cottonball. Put it in the hive.
Build it and they will come. (if there are other bees in your area)
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amazon it will be for they closed the only health food store this area had, guess they couldn't get community to support. The hard part of small business. i will post further progress.
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ok so lets say im trying to bait them into the current hive i have and have placed feed into the top super. I have frames that use rite cell, would that be similar to the comb strategy? Back to the feed, should i leave the cover off till they find it then cover up once i see them there to kinda push them towards the frames? Sorry just so much starting to flow through my mind now.
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I would put the feeder in the bottom right on the bottom board and an empty hive body around it. on top of that I would put a 2nd deep with 10 rite cell frames and then the covers. The feeder is the attractant, 2 deeps is a good size cavity for them and the frames will guide them when they start building comb so you don't have to do a "cut-out" and waste their effort.
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Mama ""Sorry just so much starting to flow through my mind now.""
Hi Mama, Never worry about asking these people too many questions! even over and over! They are the most patient mentors and teachers that I have encountered on the net. This Forum Rocks!
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this was the hive this morning about 8 am
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and here is the hive this after noon. Hoping they soon consider moving day!
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Robo ""I think cavity size and baiting with old comb are most important, all the rest is minor. I know old comb is always a challenge for new beekeepers""
Had my 5 year old granddaughter, Wren, visit last weekend. I had the two old comb frames laying out on the farm table. We came in the front door and I got busy with something.. came back into the dining room and she jumped on those frames and was squishing the old comb like it was playdoh. I was thrilled that she was asking questions about it and not at all squeemish about the feel and texture. She loves my bees! However, this was the only old comb I had. Oh Well! I'll see if I can round up another couple of frames this weekend. Supposed to be 65 ;) 8)
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it looks like taking these pictures at quite some distance away, I know cell phones don't take the best quality photo. but you could get closer and get a much better picture. dan slightly off to the front so you're not directly blocking the front of the hive and you can get fairly close without bothering them at all. they're worried about whatever's going on inside not what you're doing outside providing you're not directly bother them.
I suspect is bees just stealing syrup. but that's the way to get them interested. Good job
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Very encouraging MommaP! Get them into your gingerbread house with sweets!!! ;D
Jen.. Doesnt matter if those combs are beat up a little.. you could even cut out the beat up parts as long as there was still some decent comb left to give the box that lived in smell.
I have VERY thoroughly scraped down cut out sites in walls, Blocked the entrance they were using, and had to come back the next year for another removal because another swarm found a different way in.
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Hey lazy, a very old beekeeper gave me shallow extracting supers that were really beat up were like 45 years old, but the foundation was imprinted on aluminum ...never seen it before haven't seen it since..
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Aluminum? I've never seen that one, nor heard about it.. Does the aluminum have cells imprinted on it?
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lemon grass cotton balls along with more syrup and just waiting on nature now.
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Good thread here! Mama's got me all inspired to get a swarm box out. Hubbies working on the mediums, I'm wiring the wax ~ So Much Fun!
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so when baiting with lemon grass cotton ball do you all just throw them in the bottom supper or do you place them between frames in the hive?
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I personally think a cotton ball would be too much scent.. When I don't have commercial lute, I put a drop on a Que tip and rub around the inside rim of the hive gently.. I dispose of the Que tip, but I have heard of some that leave them laying on the top bars.
Normally I use commercial swarm lure, with just a small rub of Que tip/ lemon grass inside above the entrance..
The commercial pheromone is in a small plastic vial, inside an envelope.. the bees can smell it, and are drawn to it without opening it. Scent is one of their major senses, like our eyes are to us, so I try not to overdo it.
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Yes the aluminum was imprinted and dipped in wax, and several you could see with you see where the bees chewed away the comb down to metal, and never went back to the area again.
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ok all working on setting up a bee yard am still trying to trap these freebees in my 8 frame. I will be picking up ten frame today. If i set the new hive 20 ft from the one i baiting it shouldn't bother them? It will be 20 ft to the east surrounded by four black locust trees. Trying to get sorted for when my nuc is ready.