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Beekeeping => General Beekeeping => Topic started by: tecumseh on March 22, 2014, 06:40:16 am
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http://www.ted.com/talks/marla_spivak_why_bees_are_disappearing
I got to chat and have dinner with this fine beekeeping scientist and a small group of students and of course 'the boss' (Dr Julian Rangel). Attended her talk the next day which she presented to the Entomology department at Texas A&M. Review her earlier work on hygienic behavior and talk about her current interest in of all things propolis, some quite interesting stuff here.
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Sounds like an interesting evening. Is Marla Spivak working on publishing something involving propolis?
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I'm looking forward to more studies on propolis, like, is it the same make up from one region to another according to the different plants from region to region??? What is the medical value of it for the human race? when all the bees use it for is to seal things up?? I have found it's the only thing that helps my cracked hands and has cured the cracking on my left hand and almost on my right. Jack
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Brook- ""I have found it's the only thing that helps my cracked hands and has cured the cracking on my left hand and almost on my right. Jack""
I am also on the continual search for propolis knowledge.
So Jack, how do you apply the propolis to your hands? by tincture? do you make a cream?
And also, the tincture makes a pretty darn good deoderant as well. Just a few swipes of tincture from the bottle on the underarm and I'm set for the day. However, I don't know how well it will do in the summer.
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a jack snip...
What is the medical value of it for the human race?
tecumseh...
I don't know but it did appear to have a great deal of value to a beehive and Mzzz Spivak is also doing a good job in making certain such such is actually applicable to the beekeeper < some folks kind of ignore any application but ain't that really where the value is in any research.
she did have a reference which noted that propolis is used for human HIV infection.
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Jen, the palms of my hands would crack and bleed, i went to a dermatologist and he said i can't do nothing for your hands. :o My regular doctor said to put super glue on the cracks and it would help, it did but it stung when applied and set up hard.Well i was working bees in the rain (a no,no) and my propolised gloves got wet and when i took them off the palms of my hands were black with propolis and didn't hurt ??? so i started scrapping fresh soft propolis off when i found it and put it in a zip lock bag, now when i see or feel a crack in my hand i take a very small peice of propolis and put it in my mouth and when it gets soft i spread it over the crack and it stops hurting instantly and i don't even know it's there if i don't see it and it doesn't wear off real quick. (This is funny) My wife ask me what that black stuff was on the bed sheet on my side of the bed, i had to think a minute and realized it was propolis, she said it was hard to get off the sheets and came up with the idea of rubbing powdered sugar over the propolish, and it worked :D. Jack
Sorry for being long winded, but thought it might help someone else.
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Brook- Very interesting! but I haven't ever seen black propolis... curious.
In addition to the underarm deoderant, I also use it just like neosporin. If Ive got a owie that I need to bandage I use my tinture with a que tip swab first. And I know of people here that put 2-3 drops of tincture in their coffee or tea everyday to head off the bad bacteria and virus's.
http://www.apitherapy.org/about-apitherapy/products-of-the-hive-2/propolis/
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I guess i should have said dark brown Jen, not totally black, i like the lighter tan color if i can find it. Jack
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Brook- ''"Jen, the palms of my hands would crack and bleed, i went to a dermatologist and he said i can't do nothing for your hands.''
THAT is the dumbest thing I have ever heard!! That dermatologist should be shoved off of the doctor board.
Were you offered any kind of medication help, maybe your medicine just didn't work?
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Jen, that's what i thought? and i had to pay for the office call >:( and he was supposed to be one of the top dermatologist in Springfield, Mo. Jack
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Are you hands still dry and cracking?
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My left hand has healed completely and i have very little flare ups on my right palm.( i'm right handed) When i do i just apply some propolis and it's gone in 2 or 3 days, before i tried everything that claimed to cure cracked hands, nothing worked, my regular doctor couldn't believe how my hands cleared up and ask me how to spell propolis, that he was going to check it out. I forgot to ask him about it my last visit. Jack
PS.Anyone who has or had dry cracked hands can tell you,it can be very painful and just washing your hands can sometimes make you almost cry.
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So glad your hands are healed ~ Leave it to the bees, as usual ;) 8)
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Thanks for the report tec! Are those talks open to ordinary people, or do you need some kind of dispensation to attend? Sounds like a journey to hear such an interesting talk would be well rewarded. :)
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The miracle Bug, the only bug that produces food for man, improves the environment,and is not a predator of anything. :o Jack
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Oh! And has Huge healing properties! ;) 8)
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Just a side note Jack .
Medical super glue should not burn, and is very different to the stuff we buy in super market.
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I think Nu Skin must be the same thing as Medical super glue, it smells like fingernail polish. I use Nu Skin on my finger tips when they crack in the winter.
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howdy Lee...I seem to have lost you in the shuffle.
I am guessing since the talk was given on University property and this property belongs to the people of the State of Texas that anyone could have attended. I did tell some folks here of her coming but did not widely broadcast the event. the medium sized lecture hall was quite full with a great number of students and faculty in attendance. parking for visitors is always a concern.
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I was not told there was a medical super glue? i just used super glue from the auto parts store. ??? Jack
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It is more expensive than super glue and is not as strong as super glue. I have used both but prefer to use electrical tape for any and all mishaps.
http://www.newskinproducts.com/products/liquid_bandage.aspx (http://www.newskinproducts.com/products/liquid_bandage.aspx)
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What a great video!
A couple of points I like to make:
1) We need to keep the pressure on the Neonic manufactures to produce better products.
2) The planting of fence rows to aid wildlife is unwise. They are a very narrow strip of land that is bombarded with chemicals. They capture the dust from plantings, loaded with poisons. They catch the drift from the aerial and ground spraying of poisons.
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howdy Lee...I seem to have lost you in the shuffle.....
Things haven't been normal since that tornado hit my yard and spread bee hives around last May. I stopped being a beekeeper and became a wood cutter for the summer. ;)
Finally planning those first grafts this week or next. Thanks for your tuteladge last Spring, will put it to good use. You still have a friend in the Glen Rose area, good for free bed and breakfast any time. :)
leeb
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What a great video!
A couple of points I like to make:
1) We need to keep the pressure on the Neonic manufactures to produce better products.
2) The planting of fence rows to aid wildlife is unwise. They are a very narrow strip of land that is bombarded with chemicals. They capture the dust from plantings, loaded with poisons. They catch the drift from the aerial and ground spraying of poisons.
I plant my fence rows. Depending on which way the wind is blowing on the day of planting only one of four of those fence rows will receive any significant dust from the seed coatings.
While I do not approve of the Neonics, I do believe they are WAY better than the spraying that used to occur. I have witnessed the so called "Bloom" first hand. Many would have you believe it is a mushroom cloud rising into the sky visible for hundreds of miles. It isn't, and often is not visible at all, or is not discernible from the normal dust kicked up. Another factor is that when plantings usually occur, the ground has enough moisture that there is very little dust emitted during the process. From dry ground or from the dust created by all those seeds rubbing together. The planter injects the seed into the ground. With just a little moisture it seems to trap most of it right where it hits the dirt.
While I did not have my OWN bees when the planes used to spray every field for corn borers I did help care for hives, and there was almost Always a short decline of population that quickly rebounded. I have not noticed ANY decline with the coated seeds. Most of my hives are within a few feet of fields. Less than three steps in some instances.
Understand, I am not defending Systemic pesticides. I would really love it if I didn't have to rotate my comb out so often, but I am saying that current systems are better than the older ones.
So.. given the choice of planting sources of pollen and nectar in the fence rows and drainage ditches, or having Nothing for the bees... which should be chosen?
Not coming down on you Ray, just pointing out what I have seen and experienced. It may be different in your neck of the woods?