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Beekeeping => General Beekeeping => Topic started by: stickbow95 on May 06, 2014, 06:16:42 pm

Title: Making Progress
Post by: stickbow95 on May 06, 2014, 06:16:42 pm
Finished my first two hives today:

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/52935489/2014-05-06%2013.38.49.jpg)

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/52935489/2014-05-06%2013.39.03.jpg)

Painted them as well, just didn't get pics of that.

Now to set them out and put up the electric fence.

Bees are scheduled to arrive on Saturday.

I'm excited...


Ben
Title: Re: Making Progress
Post by: Jen on May 06, 2014, 06:23:12 pm
Nice craftmanship Ben!  ;) 8)
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Post by: Perry on May 06, 2014, 06:23:45 pm
Atta Boy Ben!
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Post by: Bamabww on May 06, 2014, 06:32:03 pm
looking very good. Way to go. Good luck with your bees.
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Post by: riverbee on May 06, 2014, 06:32:48 pm
very cool!  thanks for the pix and keep us posted!
Title: Re: Making Progress
Post by: stickbow95 on May 06, 2014, 06:35:35 pm
Thanks!
I will bend the covers tomorrow. I run the electrical department at an Electrical, HVACR company so I am fortunate to have access to all the brakes, finger brakes, and shears that one could desire. I think I noticed a couple pieces of copper sheet in the scrap rack that will be just the right size... since I am an electrician I feel its fitting. Of course, I like the color too. It should go well with the light greenish paint that I used on the hives.
Title: Re: Making Progress
Post by: riverbee on May 06, 2014, 08:51:05 pm
ben, forgot to ask, what did you decide to do on the electric fence?
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Post by: LazyBkpr on May 06, 2014, 10:32:39 pm
Nicely done!   Drop in  pic with those copper tops too!!
Title: Re: Making Progress
Post by: stickbow95 on May 07, 2014, 07:13:23 am
As for the electric fence, I figured I'd install a 480volt 3-phase service, and alternate bare conductors of all three phases around the hives, that way when a bear tries to get in, it will be just like the hot dog-and-nails experiment we did in school... Then when I go out to check the bees, I can carve off a nice roast as well ;-) .
Now,  for reality lol.  I have the charger and other parts,  it's ac powered since I will be setting them up around 100 ft from a pole barn and I'll set a post and receptacle near the hives. I planned on alternating live and ground wires in addition to the typical ground rods.
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Post by: tbonekel on May 07, 2014, 07:20:31 am
Ben, looks really nice! Shoot a little motivation over my way. I have some wood that needs to be cut.
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Post by: pistolpete on May 07, 2014, 10:45:28 am
it's hard to tell from your pictures, but if you're relying on glue alone to hold those boxes together, you might have trouble.   Then inside of the box stays moist, while the outside is dry.  This causes the top and  bottom of each board to want to warp out.   I'd back those joints up with screws.  just pre drill the holes or the wood will split.
Title: Re: Making Progress
Post by: stickbow95 on May 07, 2014, 10:52:12 am
They are screwed and gorilla glued. I used pocket holes on the inside of the deeps and the telescoping cover.  However, a good glue will always be stronger than a fastener. I am a bit of a fanatic when it comes to fastening/joining. I was going to go with dovetail joints but I figured that if they only last a few years it would be wasted effort. As they are now, they could double as jack-stands.
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Post by: Jen on May 07, 2014, 10:58:34 am
Like your work Stick! I am inclined to want to sink the screws and cap with antique upolstery nails for a decorative flair  ;) 8)
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Post by: efmesch on May 07, 2014, 01:32:50 pm
Your bees are going to love you for making them such beautiful hives.  Now make your third boxes for each hive so they'll be able to pay you back adequately with honey.   8)
Title: Re: Making Progress
Post by: stickbow95 on May 08, 2014, 09:34:37 pm
Here are the completed hives:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/52935489/2014-05-08%2012.11.56.jpg)

My Dad and I also managed to dig the post holes and set the posts and concrete this evening as well. Pictures of the enclosure will be forthcoming...
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Post by: LazyBkpr on May 08, 2014, 09:47:14 pm
Whoo wee..  You can do inspections in the dark!!!   ;D
   Job well done!
Title: Re: Making Progress
Post by: Jen on May 09, 2014, 01:01:10 am
LOVE those copper lids! They are going to be beautiful with the patina ~ I want!
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Post by: efmesch on May 09, 2014, 03:56:52 am
Stick---may your supers stack so high that you worry about the copper covers attracting lightening!   :laugh:

Really beautiful--and so well crafted!  :goodjob:
Title: Re: Making Progress
Post by: stickbow95 on May 09, 2014, 06:27:55 am
Lol. Maybe I should put lightning points in them too.
I'm sure they won't last any longer than any other, but at least the girls in the family are having fun with it. My mom and sister want to paint flowers on them... I can imagine all the frustrated bees: "what's with these flowers? Tell her majesty that we should move."
Title: Re: Making Progress
Post by: stickbow95 on May 09, 2014, 09:09:04 pm
Bees came early.  I picked them up today at 16:00. Hived them at around 17:30. It went well,  although I chickened out and wore gloves. There was a light drizzle and 49°F. I had several bees hit my veil at full speed. I assume they had a grouch on. But all in all it went well to my thinking.
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Post by: Slowmodem on May 09, 2014, 09:31:47 pm
Bees came early.  I picked them up today at 16:00. Hived them at around 17:30. It went well,  although I chickened out and wore gloves. There was a light drizzle and 49°F. I had several bees hit my veil at full speed. I assume they had a grouch on. But all in all it went well to my thinking.

Good for you!  I installed a couple of nucs in the rain once.  It's not fun, but it goes ok, and you don't get too hot.

Good luck!  Keep them fed! 
Title: Re: Making Progress
Post by: stickbow95 on May 09, 2014, 09:47:29 pm
Thanks. That's what I forgot to mention. They started taking the sugar syrup almost before I finished slicing the first slit in the bags. And there were bees fanning the lower entrance almost immediately as well. I assume that is a good sign.
Title: Re: Making Progress
Post by: stickbow95 on May 09, 2014, 10:50:13 pm
Couple pics:

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/52935489/2014-05-09%2017.54.54.jpg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/52935489/2014-05-09%2017.54.48.jpg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/52935489/2014-05-09%2017.55.12.jpg)
Title: Re: Making Progress
Post by: efmesch on May 10, 2014, 04:09:24 pm
.....there were bees fanning the lower entrance almost immediately as well. I assume that is a good sign.
Definitely a good sign.
I assume that the pine needles were placed across the entrance as a reducer.  Good move--but better yet would be to slip in a properly fitting slat of wood what will leave the entrance at most, about 10 cm (4 inches) wide.  It will be more secure and less likely to blow away and expose the whole width of the entrance before the family is strong enough to defend itself properly against potential robbers (bees from other hives and/or wasps and the like).
You might want to be prepared in advance for the posssibility of robbers by building anti-robber screens for your hives (look up the topic in "search" at the top right of the page.
Title: Re: Making Progress
Post by: riverbee on May 11, 2014, 12:01:32 am
very cool stickbow!

love the copper tops!  (you got polish for those?...... :D)

what ef said, definitely a good sign, and also what he said about the pine needles.  i am guessing you were using these to help the bees re-orient maybe?
not necessary really.  package bees orient rather quickly.  if using as a reducer, as ef said, any slat of wood to reduce it down works great!

thanks for the great pix!!!  8)
Title: Re: Making Progress
Post by: stickbow95 on May 11, 2014, 05:09:01 am
Chalk it up to beginner mistakes. As I was installing the packages, it dawned in me that I forgot to make reducers. I crammed the pine straw in there for that. I will make the reducers today. Yesterday was a beautiful day with temps right at 70°. My dad called and said that both hives were showing tons of activity and that the bees had completely removed all of the pine straw.
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Post by: Bamabww on May 11, 2014, 08:29:36 am
Seems like you're well on your way. When you mentioned earlier about using copper for the top, I wondered if you had a plan for holding the tops down. And  you did. Good luck.

Thanks for sharing your pictures.
Title: Re: Making Progress
Post by: blueblood on May 11, 2014, 09:04:59 am
Your hive builds look great.  I may have missed it, but did you find copper sheets for the lid?  I like it.
Title: Re: Making Progress
Post by: stickbow95 on May 11, 2014, 09:13:46 am
Thanks again. I don't get excited about much of anything anymore, but beginning this beekeeping journey is turning out to be extremely exciting.

Blueblood, I did put copper on the hives. I think they look fairly good. There are a few things that I would do differently. But that's the beauty of constant improvement. The day I stop trying to improve stuff is the day I take a dirt nap.
Title: Re: Making Progress
Post by: LazyBkpr on May 11, 2014, 03:30:08 pm
Mothers Wadding polish will shine about anything.
   If its moveable move it. If it shines polish it, if it doesnt Paint it.
   Instructions I was given in the SeaBees. Then we got issued a tin of mothers polish, a paintbrush, and a pair of gloves.
   Those copper tops would look DANDY after polishing.. keeping up with that polishing may not be as dandy.. I think I would be in the "beautiful" Patina camp.    ;D
Title: Re: Making Progress
Post by: riverbee on May 11, 2014, 05:08:34 pm
"I think I would be in the "beautiful" Patina camp.    ;D"

........ :D  me too scott, but those shore look purty now!!!  actually, i might be the one you'd find out at the hives with the seabee's recipe for polishing stuff..... :D
Title: Re: Making Progress
Post by: stickbow95 on May 11, 2014, 07:09:03 pm
I put on the entrance reducers today and finished the fencing. I also checked the syrup. Both hives had used it all. Both queens are out and comb is being drawn like crazy. I took out the queen cages, added the tenth frames, and put on more syrup. I wish I had discovered beekeeping sooner...
I'm still a bit unsure of myself and whatnot. It seems impossible to put the covers back on without squishing bees and for some reason I feel paranoid about losing the Queen. But I'm still fired up over the whole thing.
Title: Re: Making Progress
Post by: riverbee on May 11, 2014, 08:00:28 pm
" It seems impossible to put the covers back on without squishing bees"

stickbow, when you set the inner cover back down on the hive, set it down gently at a 45 degree or so angle.....and then gently move/slide it into position, the bees will move as you move the cover to it's position. you can use a little smoke on the edges of the hive initially before setting the cover down at an angle.
if the bees decide they are going to pour out of the inner cover hole or gather on the cover, just use your smoker to move them.   :)

Title: Re: Making Progress
Post by: LazyBkpr on May 11, 2014, 09:25:47 pm
I wish I had discovered beekeeping sooner.
I'm still a bit unsure of myself and whatnot.

   Just give it a bit of time, before long, and before you realize it, a few years have passed and you will STILL be unsure of yourself!!!    ;D
   Sure is a fun ride though.