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Beekeeping => General Beekeeping => Topic started by: DonMcJr on May 10, 2014, 12:53:17 pm

Title: Installing a Observation Hive in Our Nature Center.
Post by: DonMcJr on May 10, 2014, 12:53:17 pm
Well next week I will have photo's and Video but wanted to share some pics now.

I can't take credit for the Build Dave in Our Bee Club Built it (I want one for at home!) We planned it together along with 4-5 other Beekeepers and the Nature Center Director...

2 Frames thick and the 1st Pic you can see we have windows to see between the frames too!

It's Varnished to Match the Log Cabin Nature Center building!

We should be installing a Nuc in it next week! Can't wait!

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(https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1.0-9/397508_234781083376795_1868506651_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Installing a Observation Hive in Our Nature Center.
Post by: DonMcJr on May 10, 2014, 12:56:15 pm
Oh and I have a Question...

The entrance is on the Bottom. We want to make one of the 4 sections just 2 frames and no foundation so the bee's can build "wild" comb. Should we leave the empty frames at the top or the bottom?
Title: Re: Installing a Observation Hive in Our Nature Center.
Post by: DonMcJr on May 10, 2014, 10:06:49 pm
Anyone wanna gimme an opinion on where to put the Foundationless frames?
Title: Re: Installing a Observation Hive in Our Nature Center.
Post by: iddee on May 10, 2014, 10:11:04 pm
I would install one at a time beside a drawn frame, top two positions.
Title: Re: Installing a Observation Hive in Our Nature Center.
Post by: DonMcJr on May 10, 2014, 10:25:54 pm
I would install one at a time beside a drawn frame, top two positions.

I like that idea!  ;D
Title: Re: Installing a Observation Hive in Our Nature Center.
Post by: blueblood on May 11, 2014, 12:02:43 am
Good stuff.  Please continue to show some pics of this as it rolls along.
Title: Re: Installing a Observation Hive in Our Nature Center.
Post by: G3farms on May 11, 2014, 06:48:00 am
Just me, but I would put in frames with starter strips of foundation to get them going in the right direction with one at the top next to a frame of drawn comb and, one second from top next to a frame of drawn comb from the nuc. They will start at the top empty frame and build down, this will will take them longer and give more of the visitors a chance to see it.
Title: Re: Installing a Observation Hive in Our Nature Center.
Post by: efmesch on May 11, 2014, 09:38:46 am
That's not an observation hive---it's a beautiful furniture display case.
I agree with Iddee and G3 about putting the frames for building next to a built frame, like G3 says, with a starter strip, one on the left side and one on the right---but I'd put them in the middle two levels---there you're more likely to get worker bee sized cells.  Up above, where the bees are most likely to do their storing of honey, they'd probably build drone sized cells.
Title: Re: Installing a Observation Hive in Our Nature Center.
Post by: DonMcJr on May 14, 2014, 09:37:04 pm
Went and picked up 2 Nucs today...one for my Home Apiary and the other for the Nature Center Indoor Observation Hive!

Stay tuned tomorrow for some pics and possible a Video depending on if it's raining or not... 8)
Title: Re: Installing a Observation Hive in Our Nature Center.
Post by: apisbees on May 14, 2014, 09:52:54 pm
If it was up to the bees in nature they would start at the top and work down so to replicate nature you could place the bees and frames from the nuc in the top and let the bees work down. But being beekeepers we like to get the bees to work up, by doing this we avoid the queen laying in the honey frames so the frames stay whiter.
Title: Re: Installing a Observation Hive in Our Nature Center.
Post by: DonMcJr on May 15, 2014, 12:15:51 pm
The Bees are in! It was raining a lot so I didn't get a lot of pics...

Getting Ready...

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The Bees are in!!!

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Close up...

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Checking them out...

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Title: Re: Installing a Observation Hive in Our Nature Center.
Post by: LazyBkpr on May 15, 2014, 01:39:56 pm
Good deal! That looks REALLY nice!
Title: Re: Installing a Observation Hive in Our Nature Center.
Post by: DonMcJr on May 15, 2014, 01:47:12 pm
Thanks! Dave did an awesome job on building that thing wish I was that handy!  Im at the nature center now and just saw the queen!
Title: Re: Installing a Observation Hive in Our Nature Center.
Post by: iddee on May 15, 2014, 03:39:52 pm
Beautiful...............
Title: Re: Installing a Observation Hive in Our Nature Center.
Post by: Zweefer on May 15, 2014, 04:26:18 pm
Really cool! He should take orders!


Title: Re: Installing a Observation Hive in Our Nature Center.
Post by: efmesch on May 15, 2014, 04:30:41 pm
Where do the bees exit on the outside?
Title: Re: Installing a Observation Hive in Our Nature Center.
Post by: blueblood on May 15, 2014, 06:12:19 pm
Good job!  Looks nice.
Title: Re: Installing a Observation Hive in Our Nature Center.
Post by: DonMcJr on May 15, 2014, 07:03:58 pm
The Bees exit through the bottom and through a pvc pipe through the log wall...lets see if this pic works if not I will fix it when I get home...

(https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t31.0-8/10353449_255410717980498_4578324092195782514_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Installing a Observation Hive in Our Nature Center.
Post by: riverbee on May 15, 2014, 10:47:11 pm
awesome......and wayyyyyy cooool!

 :photos:
Title: Re: Installing a Observation Hive in Our Nature Center.
Post by: efmesch on May 16, 2014, 03:00:09 am
The Bees exit through the bottom and through a pvc pipe through the log wall..

Very nice arrangement.  The bees will disperse and shouldn't bother anyone walking on the path
Title: Re: Installing a Observation Hive in Our Nature Center.
Post by: Bakersdozen on May 16, 2014, 03:19:24 am
That's a beautiful cabinet.  You guys should be very proud.
I have always wondered what keeps an observation hive from overcrowding and swarming?  Do you have to change out frames periodically?  With 8 frames and a good queen there would be regular "maintenance" wouldn't there?
Title: Re: Installing a Observation Hive in Our Nature Center.
Post by: efmesch on May 16, 2014, 03:56:19 am
Once  I had an observation hive set up at school in my biology lab-----when it looked like it was going to demonstrate a swarmig it turned into a display of absconding.  :'(
Yep, they require regular maintenance!  As nice a tool for learning about bee behavior as it may be, an observation hive is far from providing the bees with the kind of a home they can really enjoy living in.  There are a lot of stresses the observation hive places on the family, among them: restricted space for expanding, difficulty in regulating temperatures (heats up too fast in hot weather and cools down too fast when it's cold), over-exposure to light, unnatural organization of combs (brood isn't flanked with side frames of pollen and honey stores), doesn't allow for optimum sized populations etc., etc.

But they are great learning tools.  In my early days with bees I used to spend hours watching the ongoings inside my observation  hive at home.  Much better than watching fish in an aquarium.  8)
Title: Re: Installing a Observation Hive in Our Nature Center.
Post by: robo on May 16, 2014, 07:45:34 am
Beautiful hive.  I hope the double-wide frames aren't a disappointment.  Best of Luck.

Rob....
Title: Re: Installing a Observation Hive in Our Nature Center.
Post by: DonMcJr on May 16, 2014, 11:28:11 am
I already saw the Queen come out twice yesterday from behind the frames...
Title: Re: Installing a Observation Hive in Our Nature Center.
Post by: robo on May 16, 2014, 12:08:22 pm
I'm sure she will be coming out as she will need more room then is inside.    I just feel sorry for the kids who are as lucky as me.   Seems like whenever I went to the zoo, the animals where always sleeping in their little cubby holes :sad:  Nothing to see here kids, now move on :laugh:
Title: Re: Installing a Observation Hive in Our Nature Center.
Post by: DonMcJr on May 18, 2014, 06:33:53 pm
Well Thursday and Friday the bees were all on the outside of the frames in full view!

I went by today couldn't go inside they are closed today but the Bees are setting their GPS to Home...

http://youtu.be/FR0UcYSfxpI
Title: Re: Installing a Observation Hive in Our Nature Center.
Post by: DonMcJr on June 05, 2014, 06:14:08 am
I talked to Dave yesterday and he said he would make more/take orders if anyone is really interested...if so send me a pm and I will get you his contact info...
Title: Re: Installing a Observation Hive in Our Nature Center.
Post by: LazyBkpr on June 05, 2014, 09:14:46 am
How is the OB Hive doing Don?  Do you cover it or leave it exposed all the time?  Wondering how the light may affect the bees etc...
    I will mention availability locally. If he puts up a website for them I will link to it.