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Beekeeping => General Beekeeping => Topic started by: Yankee11 on May 11, 2014, 11:41:51 pm
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I have about 8 nucs going.
I just discovered one of them is a laying worker nuc. It's five frames and pretty crowded with bees.
I have some other nucs (queen right) that could use some more bees.
Question,
Can I jut stick a frame from the laying worker nuc on each of the weaker nucs, 1 frame in each nuc.? would they kill the queen and would they even stay
or fly out back to the original position?
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Shake the bees out 100 yds away. Easiest way to do it. They can be "fixed" and I'd recommend everyone "fix" one just for the experience but not worth the hassle for me anymore except for maybe this time of year.
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Yank, I just read somewhere? that if you put the laying worker hive on a double screen over a queen right hive with the entrance to the back, and leave it for a week, and then take the screen out, that they will unite??? Now i've not tried it, but will if i get a laying worker hive. The poster swears it works. Myself i would rather risk one hive than five. JMHO Jack
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Yank, I just read somewhere? that if you put the laying worker hive on a double screen over a queen right hive with the entrance to the back, and leave it for a week, and then take the screen out, that they will unite??? Now i've not tried it, but will if i get a laying worker hive. The poster swears it works. Myself i would rather risk one hive than five. JMHO Jack
Great advice right there.The advantage isn't worth the risk.
(Just be sure you don't let Jack know I agreed with him on something) ;)
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Thanks,
I've shook them out before, I was just trying to get those bee into my weaker nucs. I may just set my 2 weekest nucs side by side in the same spot
the laying worker nuc is sitting shake them out and let them fly into them.
I read the double screen thing also but not really worth messing with on a nuc.
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Thanks,
I've shook them out before, I was just trying to get those bee into my weaker nucs. I may just set my 2 weekest nucs side by side in the same spot
the laying worker nuc is sitting shake them out and let them fly into them.
I read the double screen thing also but not really worth messing with on a nuc.
THAT, is exactly what I was thinking.. putting the weak nuc's in the laying workers place... But, I AM going to build a double screen for both nuc and standard hive, just to have ready so I can try this.
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why a "Double" screen and how would you build one?
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Double screen is a thin spacer, say 3/8 of an inch, with a screen on either side.
Remove the top and inner cover of a queen right hive. Put the screen spacer on it, then take the laying worker hive off the bottom board and set it on top of the screen. (I have small top entrances) The theory is the pheromone from the brood/queen will supress the laying workers, in one to two weeks you can introduce a queen OR let them make one.
Double screened so the bees cannot make direct contact through a single screen.
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The way I was taught was to combine them after a week.
Just pull the screen off and split later.
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That should work too. Good point Tefer!
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Yank, in a laying worker hive there are usually more than one laying worker, so there could be a laying worker on each frame? Jack
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According to research I have read. A "worker" can ONLY lay one to two eggs in a 24 hour period, so to end up with three or more eggs in multiple cells takes quite a few laying workers.
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A double screen is not needed, a single screen will work the queen is not going to be drawn to the laying workers. a single screen will work.
Developing open brood gives off a pheromone that also suppresses the worker bees from becoming laying workers so give the nuc a frame of brood not to raise a queen but to make them believe that they are not queen less because there is brood in the nuc.
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We like the double screen board for the 6 different entrances that come built into them.
I agree it's all about that normal queen rite scent that converts them back.