Worldwide Beekeeping
Beekeeping => Swarms, Cut Outs, Trap Outs and Bee Trees => Topic started by: Yankee11 on May 16, 2014, 07:56:19 am
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I think these are good bees :o
Theu werent in there that long, I didn't think
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1501289073427770&set=vb.100006400748895&type=2&theater
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Uh OH,
I was just watching this video and I think I see swarm cells around the 24 to 28 second mark. 4th comb over from the left about half way down. If this is the case what do you think I should do now. Should I scrap the idea of letting them move out into a deep on there own own and go ahead and cut them out?
Swarming out of a swarm trap. Now that's something.
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Wow, lot of bees! Did they draw all of that comb? Thanks for sharing the video.
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Yes they did.
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Put it over an inner cover hole and squirt some Bee go or smoke in the top? Put a queen excluder under it and let the brood emerge, pull it before they fill it with honey... Just trying to think of how to get the bees and brood out....
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Wow, they were some comb drawing machines then!
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If those are queen cells I will have to cut it open and split it into 2 hives.
the observation thing is not worth letting it swarm.
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Perfect example of why not to use those commercial swarm traps. For less than what you paid for that trap, you could have built multiple swarm traps with frames and not had to deal with a "cut-out" and the bees would not have to deal with the stress.
http://youtu.be/MMTlWYMcQoU
Swarm trap plans are here -> http://bit.ly/beeplans
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I only paid 6 bucks each for the traps.
It's mostly my fault because I didn't get the trap pulled down in time.
But I do agree that a box trap with frames is less stress.
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Look up hive drumming It is the way beekeepers have moved bees out of skeps and log gums in the past. Before bee go and honey robber. Once the queen has vacated with all the bees place on top of a queen excluder to let the bees emerge. If they have swarm cells in the flower pot allow enough bees to come back in to care for the brood them put them on top of the hive and let them raise a new queen and hatch out most of the brood then drum them out.
From an paper on Removing Bees publisged by
MAAREC, the Mid-Atlantic Apiculture Research and Extension Consortium
University of Delaware Newark, Delaware
DRUMMING
Another method of transferring bees is by drumming them out of the old hive. To drum bees, remove the bottom of the old hive and turn it upside down. Place a new hive with drawn comb or foundation on top of the inverted box and close all openings. Drum vigorously with a rubber mallet, stick or hammer on the side of the old hive continuously for eight to ten minutes. This causes the bees and queen to move upward. Smoking the old colony before drumming is also helpful in starting the bees upward. When most of the bees have moved up into the new hive, a queen excluder is then placed between the new and old equipment and an upper entrance provided. After several days, the new hive should be checked for evidence of the queen. If the queen is not above, the queen excluder must be removed and the drumming process repeated. Three weeks later, after the queen has been confined above and all the brood has emerged below, the old hive may be removed and discarded.
A variation of the above procedure would be to remove the combs from the old nest immediately after drumming the adult bees out and piecing the comb into empty frames for the new hive. This is accomplished by cutting large pieces of brood comb and then arranging them on a flat surface in empty frames. The pieces are held in place by wrapping string or stretching rubber bands around the frames. It is advisable to transfer only comb containing worker brood. Empty comb or comb with drone brood should be discarded. Comb with honey can be cut so the bees may rob it or pieced into frames as above for worker food.
The advantage of drumming is that it is quick and requires little manipulation by the beekeeper. When brood comb is cut and placed into frames the colony will expand quickly in its new home and have a good chance of winter survival.
From an paper on Removing Bees publisged by
MAAREC, the Mid-Atlantic Apiculture Research and Extension Consortium
University of Delaware Newark, Delaware
Link to paper
http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CDgQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fagdev.anr.udel.edu%2Fmaarec%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2010%2F03%2FRemoving_Bees.pdf&ei=pNJ3U5aYLMHvoAT6qIDABQ&usg=AFQjCNHZFe5mJMQTZ5WBGerrArCSzpTeOg&sig2=enEksVDfHV7Jc3qrQK_DxA&bvm=bv.66917471,d.cGU&cad=rja