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Title: Dad Gum it!
Post by: Perry on December 15, 2013, 04:40:39 pm
Paid $300 for it. Started it several times since I bought it!
Do you think I could get it to go today when I actually needed it!  :x
Lousy thing. Fuel in the tank, fuel in the bowl, dry plug. A few drops in the hole, put the plug back in, she sputters and dies.
The primer button wants to stay in after I push on it. Just not sure what's going on.
My son and I shoveled the driveway!  :roll:

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Title: Dad Gum it!
Post by: riverbee on December 15, 2013, 04:42:43 pm
perry did you run over an orange lufkin tape measure with that thing.............. :lol:
Title: Dad Gum it!
Post by: Perry on December 15, 2013, 04:45:49 pm
No, I would have been happy to though, it would have meant it was running. I had to push to move it so I could shovel.
Title: Re: Dad Gum it!
Post by: blueblood on December 15, 2013, 05:11:05 pm
Ah dang, sorry Perry! Maybe something plugging the intake port under the primer bulb?
Title: Re: Dad Gum it!
Post by: iddee on December 15, 2013, 05:15:04 pm
Push it in the garage, warm it up, pour a couple ounces rubbing alcohol in it and start it. Take it back outside and run it until it runs out. Put new gas in it. It has a few drops of water "condensation" in it from sitting all summer and froze in the line.
Title: Re: Dad Gum it!
Post by: Perry on December 15, 2013, 05:15:54 pm
It's hard to get in there to find out. I would have to take a cover off and all. I'm hoping something is just frozen and will thaw out. I was using the electric start after the first few tugs didn't get it going.  I didn't want to strain myself pulling on it. Now my shoulders are sore from all the shoveling.  :lol:
Title: Re: Dad Gum it!
Post by: Perry on December 15, 2013, 05:19:28 pm
I'll have to try that Iddee. Would gas line de-icer work?
Title: Re: Dad Gum it!
Post by: iddee on December 15, 2013, 05:21:35 pm
Rubbing alcohol=1.00 for a pint.

Gas de-icer= rubbing alcohol under different name=10.00 for a pint.

Your choice.
Title: Re: Dad Gum it!
Post by: Crofter on December 15, 2013, 05:44:51 pm
I think I have the same model Perry. You didnt absentmindedly shut the fuel shut off valve on the tank did you? I am starting to play those cute tricks on myself. :D  The primer line is teed off the main line into the carb. Yes you have to pull a bunch of stuff to get at things. I replaced the fuel line this summer and got rid of the primer. The fuel we have now with the alcohol in it is much harder on rubber lines and more prone to varnish up. It does sound like frozen line. If you do go for the drug store alcohol make sure you get the 95% Isopropyl not the 70% stuff that is also available (you dont need any more water!) The intake preheater prevents dribbling a bit of fuel in while cranking.
Title: Re: Dad Gum it!
Post by: iddee on December 15, 2013, 06:08:45 pm
A mist of ether in the intake helps cold starts when it isn't clogged with ice. Be sure the engine is turning over when you spray it.
Title: Re: Dad Gum it!
Post by: Crofter on December 15, 2013, 06:51:59 pm
The spraying with holy water can be tricky though, Iddee if it is indeed the same as the one I have: They hide the intake really well inside the cover so it doesnt suck in blown snow. It wraps around the exhaust manifold for carb heat. I dont even try to rope start mine if I cant get a power cord to the electric starter.
Title: Re: Dad Gum it!
Post by: Riverrat on December 15, 2013, 06:56:20 pm
Ask the wife to hold the snow shovel. When she takes it run for the house and lock the door.  :D  Works great It will be fine I do this all the time. But then again we dont get much snow ;)
Title: Re: Dad Gum it!
Post by: LazyBkpr on December 15, 2013, 08:35:42 pm
Quote from: "iddee"
A mist of ether in the intake helps cold starts when it isn't clogged with ice. Be sure the engine is turning over when you spray it.

   It is a pain.. I had one similar, but it WILL work as Iddee says if sprayed in the correct general area..   I got agrivated trying to cold start it... so NOW, the motor runs a dead mans mower.. plug it in it starts every time when the temps are nice...

   Edit;   OH!!!   DONT, listen to MM!!!   I tried it tonight,, need to fix the door after she kicked it in.. got to buy a new shovel as well..  both projects have to wait ill i get the stitches out..
Title: Re: Dad Gum it!
Post by: Buzzbee on December 21, 2013, 10:05:28 am
Two items to use regularly with small engines:
Stabil, get the marine grade "the green stuff" it controls moisture problems better.

Sea Foam  
A good preventative measure to occasionally run through the system. I have had success with this product de varnishing small engine carbs before. I always run it through the mowers,tillers and weedeaters before winter storage. Easy starts every spring.
Title: Re: Dad Gum it!
Post by: iddee on December 21, 2013, 10:10:08 am
I never put the corn gas in a 2 cycle engine. I pay .40 more per gallon for pure gas. It will save your engine.
Title: Re: Dad Gum it!
Post by: riverbee on December 21, 2013, 10:34:21 am
what iddee said about the fuel, pay the extra for the premium.  we don't use stabil and seafoam is a good product.  worked great for a chainsaw where SOMEONE put oil in the gas side, and gas in the oil side. :lol:
Title: Re: Dad Gum it!
Post by: Perry on December 21, 2013, 11:03:46 am
I did fill up the tank with premium right after I bought it so it isn't "old" gas. I still haven't got it back yet either! :x
Title: Re: Dad Gum it!
Post by: Slowmodem on December 21, 2013, 11:23:31 am
Get a can of starting fluid. Also search for non-ethanol gas to use.

Here is a website with locations of no-ethanol stations in the US and Canada:

http://pure-gas.org/ (http://pure-gas.org/)
Title: Re: Dad Gum it!
Post by: Perry on December 21, 2013, 02:18:00 pm
Hey Hey. My snowblower just got dropped off! When he noticed I had bees he asked if I would trade for the repairs. Done!!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Dad Gum it!
Post by: LazyBkpr on December 21, 2013, 06:53:54 pm
Hey Hey. My snowblower just got dropped off! When he noticed I had bees he asked if I would trade for the repairs. Done!!  <!-- s:mrgreen: -->:mrgreen:<!-- s:mrgreen: -->

   LOL Nice!!!  Now maybe you can use it!!   err.. the WIFE can use it!!!!

   Looks like were about to get 8 - 12 inches.  Dodge is backed in the garage.. Plow already down..   Generator gassed up, wood shed full.. LET IT SNOW!!!
Title: Re: Dad Gum it!
Post by: Perry on December 22, 2013, 09:24:20 am
Fired it up, walked it to the end of the driveway, and the self propel drive went away!  :o
It runs nice, if you push it!
Will have to read up what may have happened.  ::)
I may have bought a lemon.
Title: Re: Dad Gum it!
Post by: Crofter on December 22, 2013, 11:00:19 am
One of two things Perry. There is a loop of # 35 roller chain that may have come undone at the master link or possibly the rubber friction wheel that contacts the flat drive wheel. I had the molded on rubber tire disintegrate. Pull the rear cover off to have a peak in. There are about 6 self tapping hex head screws that hold it on.
Title: Re: Dad Gum it!
Post by: riverbee on December 22, 2013, 12:01:31 pm
well perry, my vote would be LEMON....... :)
Title: Re: Dad Gum it!
Post by: Riverrat on December 22, 2013, 12:35:31 pm
heres my take  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tseg8gLeF3U
Title: Re: Dad Gum it!
Post by: G3farms on December 22, 2013, 12:59:42 pm
Surely not!!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dad Gum it!
Post by: riverbee on December 22, 2013, 01:19:31 pm
LOL!!!! ::)
Title: Re: Dad Gum it!
Post by: Crofter on December 22, 2013, 01:59:07 pm
MinniMo, that is rich! maybe we will just have to send someone down to read the operating instructions to that herring choker!
Title: Re: Dad Gum it!
Post by: G3farms on December 22, 2013, 02:43:18 pm
herring choker!

LOL  LOL  LOL That's a mew one on me!
Title: Re: Dad Gum it!
Post by: DMLinton on December 27, 2013, 10:05:50 am
I am finding with a lot of these newer machines - snowblowers, generators , etc, - with the one size fits all carburetor settings that if you do not buy a machine in your own locale, the carburetor does not seem to be set correctly.  Too lean for Canadian winters in other words.  Bought a couple used Champion Power Product inverter generators that start first pull in the Summer but the only way they will start at all in cold weather is if I keep them in the house. where it is warm.

Had two snowblowers running like charms a week before the first snow here.  When I needed them, I started the tractor and got to the opposite end of the driveway before blowing the ground drive belt to bits (I ploughed a new garden with that tractor last fall with no problem).  Anyway, no problem, went for the walk behind but, you guessed it, wouldn't start.  Fortunately, my neighbour has a new snowblower that he is getting too old to follow around much.  He even supplies the gas and comes out for a chat about the time I have his driveway finished but mine is still waiting.