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Title: Beeswax - value added. Part 1
Post by: Perry on December 05, 2013, 08:25:13 am
Now that you have that nice block, brick, chunk or ball of beeswax, what to do?
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I melt mine down on top of the stove using a double boiler. (this is a must, don't heat beeswax on the stove using direct heat, it's flammable)!  :shock:
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My next purchase will be one of these to keep me out of the kitchen! It should make this step really simple.
http://www.prestopotwaxmelter.com/ (http://www.prestopotwaxmelter.com/)
Title: Re: Beeswax - value added. Part 1
Post by: BoilerJim on December 17, 2013, 10:11:35 pm
I never knew the prestopotwaxmelter even existed. Thanks for posting. I'm gonna get me one of these. :)
Title: Re: Beeswax - value added. Part 1
Post by: LazyBkpr on December 17, 2013, 11:15:51 pm
I picked up a "rangetop" at a yard sale for 50 bucks.. just hooked it up today in the extracting room..  The bonus is i can ALSO cook Venison loins or backstrap on it while melting wax!!!!   :D
Title: Re: Beeswax - value added. Part 1
Post by: Perry on December 18, 2013, 07:35:05 am
If you are at all handy.....make your own!

http://www.candletech.com/general-infor ... ax-melter/ (http://www.candletech.com/general-information/do-it-yourself-wax-melter/)
Title: Re: Beeswax - value added. Part 1
Post by: mamapoppybee on December 18, 2013, 08:45:18 pm
here is an idea for a cheep double boiler. If you can get those large green bean or any veggie can they are great!  load a soup pot with water and place the can in pot with what ever you need to melt. works like a charm we have used many times with our girl scout troop.
Title: Re: Beeswax - value added. Part 1
Post by: Jen on December 23, 2013, 07:59:15 pm
Awe Geez Lazy, I can smell the aroma of those backstraps from here in California. Don't forget to sprinkle a little cinnamon on those straps while they're cooking...
Title: Re: Beeswax - value added. Part 1
Post by: blueblood on December 23, 2013, 08:24:02 pm
I melted some beeswax in a double boiler today and added some blueberry fragrance.  Poured them in an old egg carton for a bunch of little melts to use later in a wax melter for house fragrance.
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Title: Re: Beeswax - value added. Part 1
Post by: LazyBkpr on December 26, 2013, 07:11:32 pm
hehe.. the front of our store is a CANDLE shop..  In an emergency I can go steel one of "her" wax pots...    Looks over shoulder.....
Title: Re: Beeswax - value added. Part 1
Post by: Slowmodem on January 01, 2014, 06:43:00 pm
I melted
Now that you have that nice block, brick, chunk or ball of beeswax, what to do?

I have some wax melted and strained through a paper towel.  It is from a swarm trap that was overrun with small hive beetles.  It was black when I started.  Now that I've melted and strained all the bug stuff out of it, it's gray/charcoal.

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This yellow wax is some from the solar melter in 2012 that is a good color:

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Is there something else I should try to strain it through?  Is there something I could add to change the color?  Charcoal-colored candles just don't seem appealing.
Title: Re: Beeswax - value added. Part 1
Post by: Bakersdozen on January 01, 2014, 08:07:50 pm
Old t shirts or cheese cloth.  I've used both.
Title: Re: Beeswax - value added. Part 1
Post by: Perry on January 01, 2014, 08:52:49 pm
Hey Slow
I've had wax like that too, old brood comb and such. Some of it will not lighten up much no matter what you do. Furniture polish or something is all it's fit for. I gave mine to a friend that uses it for putting in holes drilled in logs to start mushrooms in.

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Title: Re: Beeswax - value added. Part 1
Post by: Slowmodem on January 01, 2014, 10:51:51 pm
Hey Slow
I've had wax like that too, old brood comb and such. Some of it will not lighten up much no matter what you do. Furniture polish or something is all it's fit for. I gave mine to a friend that uses it for putting in holes drilled in logs to start mushrooms in.

That's what I figured, too.  I think I'll use it to make candles so I can learn.  If I mess them up, I won't feel bad throwing a gray candle away.  :)
Title: Re: Beeswax - value added. Part 1
Post by: pistolpete on June 27, 2014, 12:35:44 am
I would not recommend trying to make candles out of "dirty" wax.  The impurities will make the candles smell bad.  A great use for wax like that is painting plastic foundation.  Painting wax on foundation really helps the bees draw it out fast and uses up lots of wax.
Title: Re: Beeswax - value added. Part 1
Post by: riverbee on June 27, 2014, 10:49:13 am
if you run brood comb through a solar wax melter a number of times, and continue to filter it, there will be no particles or impurities left in it, unless you have treated your bees with something. (not sure how much residue remains). but you can use it for candles.  i don't, but do know someone who does, and often times she will color and add scent to the wax.  i use this wax as pete said, to add wax to foundation. 
Title: Re: Beeswax - value added. Part 1
Post by: brooksbeefarm on June 27, 2014, 10:56:23 am
I agree with Pete, old smelly wax is still better than the smell of plastic in the bee hive. :laugh: Jack
PS. I'm banned from the kitchen after making bee candy  (Once), i now use my Coleman stove out in my shop. ;D
Title: Re: Beeswax - value added. Part 1
Post by: LazyBkpr on June 27, 2014, 02:55:27 pm
I'm banned from the kitchen after making bee candy  (Once), i now use my Coleman stove out in my shop. ;D


   LOL!!!  My wife is still looking for the spoon that remains STUCK in the permacrete stuff I cooked up..  I probably should go bury it so the spoon is never recognized....  that was three or four years ago, its STILL THERE impervious to the weather...  Once In a while I swear it growls if I get too close...
Title: Re: Beeswax - value added. Part 1
Post by: CpnObvious on June 27, 2014, 03:55:39 pm
Beeswax is also goof for protecting tablesaw tables, drillpress tables, and the rails on your lathe.
Title: Re: Beeswax - value added. Part 1
Post by: Barbarian on July 05, 2014, 04:00:48 am
In August, I am attending my club's beekeeping display at a local Agricultural Show/Fair.

I will be taking some beeswax for sale. I am thinking of making a notice listing the various hobbies/ uses that might use beeswax. Hopefully this might generate some extra sales.

Would members like to list some of these usages ?

Here's a start ------ Archery
                               Batik painting of traditional Easter eggs ---- pysanky
                               Candle making
                               Cosmetics
                               Encaustic Painting
                               Furniture treatment
                               Leather treatment
                               Lost wax casting
                               Needlework and tailoring
                               Wood dressing
                               Woodworking equipment treatment
               

Thanks for the suggestions. I've amended my original post to keep the list together.
Title: Re: Beeswax - value added. Part 1
Post by: Perry on July 05, 2014, 06:17:23 am
Tailors and seamstresses can use it
Artists.
Title: Re: Beeswax - value added. Part 1
Post by: Bakersdozen on July 06, 2014, 09:21:53 am
I melted some beeswax in a double boiler today and added some blueberry fragrance.  Poured them in an old egg carton for a bunch of little melts to use later in a wax melter for house fragrance.
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Excellent idea!  Quick, easy and recycles egg cartons.  A trifecta!
Title: Re: Beeswax - value added. Part 1
Post by: Bakersdozen on July 06, 2014, 09:30:01 am
How about beeswax sculptures?  A club member submitted a beeswax sculpture at the state fair.  She received a purple ribbon and got an article about beeswax sculpting in Bee Culture magazine.
Title: Re: Beeswax - value added. Part 1
Post by: brooksbeefarm on July 06, 2014, 10:03:23 am
I'm not a musician, but have several of them buy bees wax for there instruments ?? Jack
Title: Re: Beeswax - value added. Part 1
Post by: Bsweet on July 07, 2014, 10:41:26 pm
Those of us that shoot traditional muzzle loaders use it to make lube for shooting patches and for bullet lube, it is also used to flux molten lead to remove impurities before casting. Some will add it to boiled linseed oil to make a stain/treatment for wooden stocks. Jim
Title: Re: Beeswax - value added. Part 1
Post by: Barbarian on July 12, 2014, 12:35:21 am
What are shooting patches ?
Title: Re: Beeswax - value added. Part 1
Post by: Bsweet on July 12, 2014, 12:16:48 pm
When you shoot round ball you use a ball smaller than the bore of the gun. A 50 cal. gun would have a bore of .500 and the ball would be .490 so you would need a patch to make a tight fit. Patches are often made of cotton and have a lube on them to aid in loading and help keep the fouling (from burnt gunpowder) soft.  Jim
Title: Re: Beeswax - value added. Part 1
Post by: Barbarian on August 11, 2014, 02:44:41 am
"Not a lot of people know that"

I displayed my list of beeswax uses at Saturday's show. It generated a few chats but not new wax sales --- early days. No one was admitting being into muzzle loading firearms.

I am wrong. I did sell a small amount of wax to a chap who wanted to repair his didgeridoo. Apparently the mouthpiece is a ring of beeswax. That will be a new use for the list.

According to a report in the British Medical Journal, playing a didgeridoo can help people who suffer from snoring or obstructive sleep apneoa. When I mentioned this to Lady B a gleam came to her eye (prezzi ?). She might have to decide which would be worse  ---- my snoring or my efforts to play a didgeridoo.    ;D ;D
Title: Re: Beeswax - value added. Part 1
Post by: LazyBkpr on August 11, 2014, 09:07:03 am
A fellow on the other side of town shoots long range competition with a Sharps, makes his own ammo and lube. Buys wax to make his "secret" mix..

   Didgerahwhat?

   Didgeridoo is a wind instrument played by Australian Aborigines since time immemorial. The instrument is made of a hollow tree trunk.


  OOOOh!   ok...  So I just had to wonder what the difference between snoring and early efforts to play a didgeridoo would be?     :laugh: