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Beekeeping => Do-It-Yourself Plans and Prints => Topic started by: Yankee11 on December 05, 2014, 10:58:38 pm

Title: Now making my own boxes. Love the new jig.
Post by: Yankee11 on December 05, 2014, 10:58:38 pm
Knocked out a bunch of boxes in a hurry and I was only doing 4 boards at a time. Jig will hold 8 boards.

 
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Title: Re: Now making my own boxes. Love the new jig.
Post by: Marbees on December 06, 2014, 12:05:37 am
Looks great, congrats  :yes: Is it Carl Korschgen type jig?
Title: Re: Now making my own boxes. Love the new jig.
Post by: Yankee11 on December 06, 2014, 12:21:04 am
Yep, It's his.
Title: Re: Now making my own boxes. Love the new jig.
Post by: Perry on December 06, 2014, 06:18:13 am
Very nice. Put some handholds in them and they would sell up here, unassembled, for at least $22 -$25. ;D
Title: Re: Now making my own boxes. Love the new jig.
Post by: Marbees on December 06, 2014, 09:16:32 am
Yankee, what's the price of that jig? Thanks
Title: Re: Now making my own boxes. Love the new jig.
Post by: Yankee11 on December 06, 2014, 09:09:28 pm
Perry, Once I get them together I bought the Molding head cutter for my other table saw. The one like yours. I alredy have folks asking if I;ll make boxes for them. :)

Marbees,
The jig was like 175.00. It should last forever, very well made and thought out.Carl is a beekeeper and is very helpful. The toughest
part is setting it up (not really bad) once set up it's just throwing in stacks of boards and running over dado stack. It truly seemed like we were
just getting started and we were out of boards, and that was 4 at a time not 8.

Send him an email and he will quickly get back to you. He also has a very nice hand hold cutting jig to use on a drill press. Makes nice hand holds. If you order both he gives a pretty good discount.
Title: Re: Now making my own boxes. Love the new jig.
Post by: Perry on December 06, 2014, 09:39:08 pm
Depending on the amount of "spare" time you have, building boxes and other certain equipment can add to the thickness of your wallet if you are so inclined. Having a reasonable priced supply of wood is half the battle.
Title: Re: Now making my own boxes. Love the new jig.
Post by: Yankee11 on December 06, 2014, 09:59:06 pm
Yep, I am trying some spruce. Its a little lighter than the yellow pine and doesn't seem to have the big hard knots.

I can get a 16 foot board for 10.45, can make 10 supers for around 45 bucks. so 4.50 each.

Have you ever used spruce?

Deeps have to be yellow pine. I can do the deeps for around 6 bucks each.
Title: Re: Now making my own boxes. Love the new jig.
Post by: Perry on December 07, 2014, 07:51:10 am
I've used spruce t & g for bottom boards but don't really like it. Even painted and all, they seem to pick up moisture, plus they seem heavier. Pine for bottom boards is more expensive.
I can get my pine at 50 cents a foot for 9 3/4 x 7/8", and I think it was 42 cents a foot for 8 x 7/8" (for mediums). I have to rip the mediums down to width, but that leaves me with strips for all sorts of stuff like shims, etc.
Title: Re: Now making my own boxes. Love the new jig.
Post by: Marbees on December 07, 2014, 03:00:47 pm
Thanks Yankee, I do have Beaver 3700, floor model 16" drill press 4840 RPM  ;D , so his handhold jig would be a nice addition...

I'm cutting spruce 2x4's right now for the sides of bee escapes I am building.
Never used it for supers, not sure about weather impact up here
Title: Re: Now making my own boxes. Love the new jig.
Post by: Yankee11 on December 14, 2014, 12:08:47 am
Ok, I got the top tab figured out today. Now I can cut the tab on fronts and backs frame rests  like the boxes from the big guys :-)

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And got my handles going. Maybe 10 seconds to cut the hald holds. I'm good to go now.


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Made 20 supers for a 90 dollar bill.
Title: Re: Now making my own boxes. Love the new jig.
Post by: Perry on December 14, 2014, 06:16:30 am
Those look................PERFECT!
I've paid well over $20 each for store bought that some of which didn't look that good.
Well done!
Title: Re: Now making my own boxes. Love the new jig.
Post by: LazyBkpr on December 14, 2014, 08:32:12 am
Indeed well done!   Makes you feel good to MAKE what you need. Do a good job, and save yourself some money in the process!
Title: Re: Now making my own boxes. Love the new jig.
Post by: Yankee11 on December 14, 2014, 09:29:29 am
Thanks, I have been working on being able to build my own boxes for a few years. I've tried different ways, finally got it now.

Yes, Doing things for myself seems to be in my DNA,

I can now make the whole hive from top to bottom. I am NOT interested in making frames though. So I will always buy frames and foundation.
I'll have to a pencil to what it actually cost me build a complete hive,  deeps and 2 mediums.

Title: Re: Now making my own boxes. Love the new jig.
Post by: Yankee11 on December 14, 2014, 09:43:23 am
I just put a medium in the shopping cart at Mann Lake to check a total with shipping.

27.81 for one super.

Title: Re: Now making my own boxes. Love the new jig.
Post by: Perry on December 14, 2014, 10:44:15 am
I figure at 50 cents a foot for 7/8" x 9 3/4" material I am around $4 (allowing for offcuts) per deep box . But, if you start to consider the wear and tear on your equipment as well as your time, it climbs.
That said, we have to do something in the winter! ;D
Title: Re: Now making my own boxes. Love the new jig.
Post by: Yankee11 on December 14, 2014, 11:01:39 am
Yes sir, keeps me from going nuts in winter.

I don't think I'll be making in mass quantities to sell, but just savings for ourselves is worth it.
Title: Re: Now making my own boxes. Love the new jig.
Post by: Yankee11 on December 14, 2014, 09:26:29 pm
Earned my nap for today,


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Title: Re: Now making my own boxes. Love the new jig.
Post by: Perry on December 14, 2014, 09:46:49 pm
Dang , don't those look nice.
You use Titebond III as well I see?
Title: Re: Now making my own boxes. Love the new jig.
Post by: Yankee11 on December 14, 2014, 10:47:36 pm
Yea, Lowes just started carrying the 1 gallon size.

I love the molding head cutter. Makes a hand hold in about 10 seconds.

Not for the timid though. I need to work on a good jig though.
Title: Re: Now making my own boxes. Love the new jig.
Post by: Perry on December 15, 2014, 06:32:35 am
The jig I built works great, but I don't cut my hand holds until after the boxes are put together, it gives me more to hang on to when cutting them. There is a lot of force at work when those cutters are doing their job. ;D
Title: Re: Now making my own boxes. Love the new jig.
Post by: LazyBkpr on December 15, 2014, 08:51:35 am
Yeah those do look NICE..
  I have been considering making my rabits with 45 degree corners so there is NO end grain showing..  havent decided on the best way to try it yet..    Ted is coming over to tinker today, I'll get a picture of whatever projects we get completed.. I blew my back out throwing wood yesterday so I wont be a ball of fire, but we will get some stuff done while its raining...
Title: Re: Now making my own boxes. Love the new jig.
Post by: Yankee11 on December 15, 2014, 02:22:22 pm
I think that is much safer way to do it. But I want to be able to store boards ready to sell or throw together. Just stack
on shelf. I may rethink that though.

I would like to be able to sell them without having to put them together.

We need some kind of jig we can put the board in and slide it over the blade then remove. If that makes since. Like a try of some sort with handles
above the board. Just thinking out loud here.
Title: Re: Now making my own boxes. Love the new jig.
Post by: Marbees on December 16, 2014, 06:02:02 am
Yankee, this should help http://www.busybeetools.com/products/GRR-RIPPER-BASIC-%252b-DVD-MICROJIG.html
Or this http://www.busybeetools.com/products/GRR-RIP-BLOCK-MICROJIG.html
Title: Re: Now making my own boxes. Love the new jig.
Post by: LazyBkpr on December 17, 2014, 07:52:27 am
Bah, didnt get pictures.. Ted was loading stuff as fast as the paint started to get tacky.. that, and the wife decided to run off with the little CARD out of the camera...   Gonna start another thread this evening so everyone can show off their winter projects.
Title: Re: Now making my own boxes. Love the new jig.
Post by: Yankee11 on December 18, 2014, 11:33:01 am
Marbees,

Thanks and that is close, but i have to set the board down on top of the blade to make the had hold.

I lower the board down on the blade and go back and forth about 3/4 of an inch both directions then lift board up off blade.
Title: Re: Now making my own boxes. Love the new jig.
Post by: Marbees on December 19, 2014, 01:11:43 am
These could help
http://www.busybeetools.com/products/MAG-JIG-150-MAG-SWITCH.html
get two of these, then slide the sides between them...