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Beekeeping => Pests and Diseases => Topic started by: MarkCase on July 26, 2016, 07:00:15 am

Title: unwanted visitors
Post by: MarkCase on July 26, 2016, 07:00:15 am
these have been invading my community feeder and are getting numerous.  Don't know what they are but they are aggressive!
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Title: Re: unwanted visitors
Post by: iddee on July 26, 2016, 07:08:54 am
Hornets, and you will know what they are in the future if one pops you.  :o   ;D

Find the nest and take it out.
Title: Re: unwanted visitors
Post by: lazy shooter on July 26, 2016, 07:23:54 am
Iddee, as always, is correct.  You will remember a hornet sting, and when you find the next wear your beast as hornets are quite aggressive and defensive.  They will come and see you quick.  On the "lazy shooter scale of pain," only a scorpion has a more painful sting.

lazy
Title: Re: unwanted visitors
Post by: brooksbeefarm on July 26, 2016, 09:16:32 am
Been stung by everything that will sting here in S W Mo. except a scorpion? as a young boy i would lay on the cot next to the double barrel wood stove in the log cabin above the Big Sac river and watch the scorpions dance and play on the ceiling above me. The old folks told us boys not to mess with them, that if you get stung by one you will know you've been stung big time. :yes: Jack
Title: Re: unwanted visitors
Post by: Jen on July 26, 2016, 12:38:09 pm
Ooof... That makes me shudder. So, how would Mcase take out the hornets nest? I haven't had to deal with hornets, but if I have a big yellow jacket nest I nab it during the night when all the jackets are back on the nest.
Title: Re: unwanted visitors
Post by: MarkCase on July 26, 2016, 12:47:24 pm
If these guys are the black face hornets, then the nest will be one of those paper nests.  HOPE, I SURE HOPE it is on a branch.  Last time I had to do it, I took my time and trimmed branches as far back as I could get  Waited till dark  Took one of those industrial 100 gallon plastic bags, put over the nest and branch, dropped a flying inset bomb in the bag and sealed it up. 

Haven't had to deal with one on the edge of building yet.

These critters just confused me.  Never seen them with these markings.  I've seen all kinds of bald face and Japanese hornets, but these guys were new to me.
Title: Re: unwanted visitors
Post by: Jen on July 26, 2016, 01:22:14 pm
That sounds like a good plan Mcase. I do know a gentleman who when he finds a hornets nest that can take fire, will douse it with gasoline or kerosene and burn it in the night.
Title: Re: unwanted visitors
Post by: G3farms on July 26, 2016, 05:20:01 pm
Have taken a long pole and wrapped newspaper around the end and tied on with tie wire. A little kerosene on the paper to keep it going and extend it out or up to the nest and let her burn.

Have also taken gas and poured into the end of a long garden hose, with the other end connected to the water spigot. get as close as you dare and have someone else turn the water on. With your thumb or a spray nozzle on the end you can direct the stream right into the nest. Have done this on houses, just do not light it, the gas will evaporate in very short order.
Title: Re: unwanted visitors
Post by: Mikey N.C. on July 26, 2016, 05:22:35 pm
Yes MC , that's balded faced hornets, they build the paper nests on limbs, eaves. The European hornets which are yellow and black stripped,come from the ground like yellow jackets but not every time.
Title: Re: unwanted visitors
Post by: Mikey N.C. on July 26, 2016, 05:28:04 pm
Baldfaced 
Title: Re: unwanted visitors
Post by: Mikey N.C. on July 26, 2016, 05:50:00 pm
Last year we  seen some hornets that were 3" long, they had a orange head an orange an black stripes, the state claims we don't have the Asian hornets. But l know what we seen, and they are much bigger than European hornets the size of a hummingbirds and of course a different flight pattern than the birds.
Title: Re: unwanted visitors
Post by: Lburou on July 26, 2016, 08:18:14 pm
Last year we  seen some hornets that were 3" long, they had a orange head an orange an black stripes, the state claims we don't have the Asian hornets. But l know what we seen, and they are much bigger than European hornets the size of a hummingbirds and of course a different flight pattern than the birds.
Like Perry says..."No pictures?  It didn't happen!"  Try and get some pictures Mikey.  If they turn out to be Asian hornets, their presence would make me very sad because of the implications for our honey bees.  :)
Title: Re: unwanted visitors
Post by: iddee on July 26, 2016, 08:45:00 pm
Mikey, do you know what a hawk moth is?
Title: Re: unwanted visitors
Post by: Mikey N.C. on July 27, 2016, 08:30:45 am
That was last year, haven't seen that many this year (hornets, yellow jackets) maybe cause of rain this year, if I do I'll try an get pics.
Title: Re: unwanted visitors
Post by: iddee on July 27, 2016, 12:39:29 pm
You didn't answer my question, Mikey.
Title: Re: unwanted visitors
Post by: Jen on July 27, 2016, 02:31:37 pm
MCase ~ Sooo, I go to my sliding screen door to step outside and there is a hornet on the screen right in front of my face. Haven't seen one of those in Yeeeeaars! That's not funny MCase that you send them my way!  :o  Hornet got swooped up into a thick paper towel and promptly smashed under my slippered foot!  ;) 8)
Title: Re: unwanted visitors
Post by: Mikey N.C. on July 27, 2016, 09:10:49 pm
Yes iddee I've seen hawk moth , this was a hornet trying to get in the back door I was on the porch , seen it up close
Title: Re: unwanted visitors
Post by: MarkCase on July 29, 2016, 01:13:14 pm
MCase ~ Sooo, I go to my sliding screen door to step outside and there is a hornet on the screen right in front of my face. Haven't seen one of those in Yeeeeaars! That's not funny MCase that you send them my way!  :o  Hornet got swooped up into a thick paper towel and promptly smashed under my slippered foot!  ;) 8)

I just wanted to share the love!   :) :) :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: unwanted visitors
Post by: Jen on July 29, 2016, 01:57:24 pm
 :D Haven't seen another one, so the other's must have fled back to you after they witnessed the good squishing of their comrade  :D
Title: Re: unwanted visitors
Post by: rober on September 05, 2016, 08:57:59 am
mikey- you probably saw a cicada wasp. I've only seen 2 in my life & only noticed them when they came crashing out of trees
while in the process of attacking cicadas. they are huge!!

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Title: Re: unwanted visitors
Post by: brooksbeefarm on September 05, 2016, 09:48:22 am
Looks like those hornets when i'm picking corn that seg sag over a hole in the ground? I have walked through and over them many times and never been stung by one ??? Jack
Title: Re: unwanted visitors
Post by: LazyBkpr on September 05, 2016, 02:33:23 pm
I always seem to have a can of either about, either for doing a mite roll, or for starting a tractor when its -20 degrees outside and the wind is howling...  I have also learned, a single DROP of either will put a wasp, bee, hornet, bumblebee DOWN in an instant...
   Swapping the spray nozzle from a fogger type to one form a wd-40 can lets you STREAM the either straight where you want it..   Wasp nests etc fall victim to either quickly...
   
   A big paper wasp nest is no different... though I will NOT recommend doing this... a BIC held up to the stream as it hits the nest, and flicked will make a flame thrower to ignite the already saturated with either nest...   Though,, I have heard it is dangerous to do that... rednecks will be rednecks!