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Beekeeping => Swarms, Cut Outs, Trap Outs and Bee Trees => Topic started by: tedh on September 20, 2016, 06:04:39 pm

Title: More Bees in a barrel
Post by: tedh on September 20, 2016, 06:04:39 pm
Is it to late to do a trap out this year?


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Title: Re: More Bees in a barrel
Post by: iddee on September 20, 2016, 06:09:23 pm
To get another hive, Yes.

You could put a weak hive there and trap enough bees to make it strong, then remove it and repeat. You may boost 3 or 4 hives before the barrel is empty.
Title: Re: More Bees in a barrel
Post by: tedh on September 20, 2016, 06:19:24 pm
Hi Everyone, 

Got a call about this and went to pick them up this morning.  I was told they've only been there a few weeks.  Originally I thought I'd haul them home and trap them out next spring (if they survive the winter).  There's just no weight there.  Lots of bees were bearding but when I lifted the barrel I thought uh oh!  I've never done a trap out but it seems pretty straight forward however, unless I'm mistaken, there is a time period of a few weeks to complete the job.  I'm not sure we'll have it, but then I REALLY can't see them making it on their own this winter.  I can't think of a way to feed them either.  I could do an open feeder but we've had some nasty robbing going on so I am afraid to get that started.  I think it's a pretty neat place for the girls to move into though.  Any thoughts would be appreciated.  Ted
Title: Re: More Bees in a barrel
Post by: tedh on September 20, 2016, 06:21:44 pm
You posted while I was typing Iddee.  So I could place a weak hive that already has bees in it to use as the trap?  They wouldn't fight?
Title: Re: More Bees in a barrel
Post by: iddee on September 20, 2016, 06:26:57 pm
It has worked for me.
Title: Re: More Bees in a barrel
Post by: tedh on September 20, 2016, 06:36:50 pm
Good enough for me, thanks iddee!
Title: Re: More Bees in a barrel
Post by: tedh on September 20, 2016, 07:19:37 pm
If a beard is any indication........


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Title: Re: More Bees in a barrel
Post by: Wandering Man on September 20, 2016, 07:32:51 pm
Anyway you look at it, that's a cool looking hive!
Title: Re: More Bees in a barrel
Post by: tedh on September 20, 2016, 08:01:41 pm
Josh and I talked about buying the barrel and just leaving them in it as a novelty.  We think it's pretty cool too!  Ted




Title: Re: More Bees in a barrel
Post by: iddee on September 20, 2016, 08:43:29 pm
It's also against to keep bees in a hive without removable frames. I would move the barrel in the middle of the day and place a weak hive in it's place. Move it 100 feet or more. Then if they still beard, do it again with another weak hive.
Title: Re: More Bees in a barrel
Post by: tedh on September 20, 2016, 09:23:38 pm
Yeah, the legal thing is what stopped us.  Would you recommend moving it tomorrow or starting a trap out?
Title: Re: More Bees in a barrel
Post by: iddee on September 20, 2016, 09:58:12 pm
With a beard that size, I would shake them off and move it. Set a weak hive in it's place and they will take up with it.  "Instant trapout".
Title: Re: More Bees in a barrel
Post by: tedh on September 21, 2016, 02:30:50 pm
Shook the beard off and moved the barrel to the next property over.  Set a weak hive in the barrels place.  Trying my first trap out.
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There's 4 drawn frames in the nuc and a frame of brood just like iddee said.  The top box is a feeder. 
Title: Re: More Bees in a barrel
Post by: tedh on September 21, 2016, 02:31:46 pm
I mean eggs.  Hehehehe! Ted
Title: Re: More Bees in a barrel
Post by: iddee on September 21, 2016, 02:41:19 pm
If you read my trap out pages, you would know the catch box goes at the big end of the cone, not the point.
Title: Re: More Bees in a barrel
Post by: tedh on September 21, 2016, 03:10:38 pm
That, iddee, truely made me laugh right out loud, in an empty room!
Title: Re: More Bees in a barrel
Post by: iddee on September 21, 2016, 03:25:26 pm
OK. Why? The bees leave the barrel and go to the field. They return with nectar and go to the barrel entrance. That's where you need the catch box.
Title: Re: More Bees in a barrel
Post by: tedh on September 21, 2016, 03:39:32 pm
I'll be...darned.  Okay, I'm off to fix that.  Thanks iddee.
Title: Re: More Bees in a barrel
Post by: tedh on September 21, 2016, 04:07:13 pm
I've got the bottom board (front porch) snugged up to the large end of the funnel.  In my haste I neglected to bring my camera.  I'll check it tomorrow and get a pic to make sure I've got it right.  No kidding, I can't believe they let me drive much less carry a weapon or vote.  I watched that video, how many times, and still didn't catch that.  Nothing about beekeeping is intuitive.  It just makes sense that the catch box would go by the small end of the funnel, until you know the reasoning.  Nothing intuitive, you either know or you don't.  I didn't.  Thanks again iddee.  Ted
Title: Re: More Bees in a barrel
Post by: tedh on September 21, 2016, 06:33:41 pm
I couldn't take the wait.  Had to see if I've got it right.

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How does this look?  Any changes I need to make?
Title: Re: More Bees in a barrel
Post by: Perry on September 21, 2016, 06:48:08 pm
That's more like it! :)
Title: Re: More Bees in a barrel
Post by: tedh on September 21, 2016, 07:24:50 pm
Hey Perry,  thanks.  Can you imagine how foolish I feel?
Title: Re: More Bees in a barrel
Post by: iddee on September 21, 2016, 07:27:37 pm
How many bees are on the box in your first pics, and how many in this one? There's your answer. Now you're getting some action.

PS. Everybody remembers the awkwardness of their "first time".   :laugh: :yes:
Title: Re: More Bees in a barrel
Post by: tedh on September 21, 2016, 07:45:24 pm
Thanks iddee.
Title: Re: More Bees in a barrel
Post by: lazy shooter on September 21, 2016, 09:38:43 pm
Garcia perfecto.
Title: Re: More Bees in a barrel
Post by: LazyBkpr on September 28, 2016, 10:15:04 pm
wow! Looking good!

  I might have just opened the barrel and shaken them into my yard... Provided I could get the top off the barrel withiut damaging it.
  they will gather about the queen so you can find her and pinch her, then they will start looking for a new home...
   At least your way you choose which hives get strengthened instead of the bees.

   With that many bees I might have fed the heck out of them and tried to winter them too... SO MANY options...
     How the heck are you doing Ted??