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Beekeeping => Swarms, Cut Outs, Trap Outs and Bee Trees => Topic started by: omnimirage on September 20, 2016, 06:58:14 pm

Title: Bee swarms attracted to apiary sites?
Post by: omnimirage on September 20, 2016, 06:58:14 pm
This year, I've had numerous bee swarms come to my home. I can't tell if they've absconded out of my own hives and I can't tell, or if bee swarms are somehow attracted to apiary sites for whatever reason.

Last year I had a swarm land in my front garden. This year,  I've had two at one of my sites, and five at the other, too much to simply be a coincidence.

It makes me wonder if I should be setting up bait/trap hives at my apiary sites.
Title: Re: Bee swarms attracted to apiary sites?
Post by: Perry on September 20, 2016, 07:03:32 pm
I had an apiary that had 10 hives I was going through with a friends help. He noticed a small swarm hanging on a shrub just 10 feet outside my fence. I asked him to collect it and as he was, he noticed it was getting bigger by the minute. It was a swarm moving into the apiary.
We collected it and went through all my hives, no swarm had issued from any of them. As we were loading my truck my friend said he could still hear bees, so we looked around some more and found another swarm up in the air about 30 feet in a branch. I caught them the next day.
So I guess my answer to your question would be yes, swarms can be attracted to another persons apiary site.
Title: Re: Bee swarms attracted to apiary sites?
Post by: omnimirage on September 20, 2016, 07:09:19 pm
Did you set up bait hives? These experiences seem too unlikely to be coincidental. I wonder if they can smell something they like, or feel safe by the presence of other healthy bees.
Title: Re: Bee swarms attracted to apiary sites?
Post by: Wandering Man on September 20, 2016, 07:31:55 pm
When I told my neighbor I was going to start keeping bees, he told me he'd heard they attracted other bees.  I told him I didn't think they would.  Maybe I was wrong?
Title: Re: Bee swarms attracted to apiary sites?
Post by: Knucs on September 20, 2016, 11:34:19 pm
I've heard this before as well.
Here is an interesting read about ley lines, http://www.dave-cushman.net/bee/leylines.html

And here is another interesting read about orientating your hives with magnetic lines, http://www.landandspirit.net/html/beehive-location.html
Title: Re: Bee swarms attracted to apiary sites?
Post by: Perry on September 21, 2016, 07:03:44 am
Did you set up bait hives? These experiences seem too unlikely to be coincidental. I wonder if they can smell something they like, or feel safe by the presence of other healthy bees.

I didn't set up bait hives. I have tried placing swarm traps in yards trying to catch any of my own swarms and it has never happened.
Title: Re: Bee swarms attracted to apiary sites?
Post by: omnimirage on September 21, 2016, 06:34:33 pm
I've heard this before as well.
Here is an interesting read about ley lines, http://www.dave-cushman.net/bee/leylines.html

And here is another interesting read about orientating your hives with magnetic lines, http://www.landandspirit.net/html/beehive-location.html

are those valid sources of information?
Title: Re: Bee swarms attracted to apiary sites?
Post by: Knucs on September 21, 2016, 09:31:53 pm
Omnimirage, not sure but I still found it interesting, I ran across the ley line one quite some time ago. They are pehaps a bit out there but not as bad as crystals or the power of pyramids,  :D
Title: Re: Bee swarms attracted to apiary sites?
Post by: neillsayers on September 22, 2016, 12:10:00 am
knucs,

I found those articles quite interesting. I have always been curious about the concept of ley lines and Sweet Wife is much more knowledgeable about it than I. Thanks for those, I will share them with the boss lady and see what she thinks.
Title: Re: Bee swarms attracted to apiary sites?
Post by: Mikey N.C. on September 25, 2016, 08:26:29 am
Very interesting .
Title: Re: Bee swarms attracted to apiary sites?
Post by: Barbarian on September 25, 2016, 08:55:43 am
I believe that scout bees and swarms are attracted by the smell of hives and beekeeping equipment.
I think that a swarm has an urge to relocate a distance away from the parent hive.

Each year, I use bait hives. With a bait hive, it is easier to add frames of foundation or move the swarm to a new location.
In my suburban location, swarms often end up in building cavities and have to be destroyed. I hope that bait hives help to prevent colony destruction.
Title: Re: Bee swarms attracted to apiary sites?
Post by: Gypsi on September 27, 2016, 07:34:37 pm
They seem to be attracted to the smell of bees and healthy hives.  I keep bait hives out. I do catch my own swarms, in past years I have caught a couple of unexpected ones
Title: Re: Bee swarms attracted to apiary sites?
Post by: LazyBkpr on September 28, 2016, 10:07:34 pm

  Catching a swarm from your own hives depends a lot on available "homes" that the bees will choose...
  Apparently, we do not have many available sites nearby...   My bee shed is about twenty steps from my main yard. I have had bees move into both Nucs and assembled hives in that shed, and once into a hive I had in the back of my truck about 40 yards away...
   Like Perry, the first time it happened, I searched my hives like a fanatic to see which one had queen cells and no queen, and could not find which hive they came from, so assumed they wre not mine.. since then, I quit worrying if they were mine. I do regular inspections and HOPE I will spot a problem when I need to.
   this year I split pretty hard two diffeerent times, and still had a swarm move into a hive in my shed...
   As I see it...
   I am either getting free bees with 0 work, or my bees are splitting themselves for me... Now I just run with it!