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Beekeeping => Products Of The Hive => Topic started by: riverbee on November 13, 2016, 07:17:19 pm
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probably not perry's story, but..........hot wax (melted down for candle making) spilled on oak hardwood flooring today........
what a mess........... :D :D :D
i should have just driven to scotts house for a rum and coke.......... :D
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Ooooh Maaaan! Sorry to hear that Riv... You need a bee workshop, just a little one...
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My mother waxed the floors, but not quite like that. :o
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My mother waxed the floors, but not quite like that. :o
That's what I was thinking. It's gotta be good for the wood.
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Wow! Sorry to hear that. It's probably why my dear sweet wife eyeballs me every time I make candles! I can't even imagine the clean up.
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the oak hardwoods are the original from 1960's ........old stuff. 1 and 1/2 inch in width. red and white, beautiful wood! i just about flipped. well i did flip because we were scheduled to have this floor in the living room refinished, ya know, sanded and finished (oil base)..........well this wax had all sorts of stuff in it; that sort of works like oil/sealer. sanding can and will take some of it off the top but not what soaked in.......oh welll. can't imagine if i had dumped this on the finished flooring (oil based) i think it would have been okay. never mind that, i have never been so mad at myself!
true you guys, one way to wax the floor! the cleanup..............?
i am sure the floor/oak hardwood will be alright. my mistake and the cleanup was a real stinker.......... :D
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Ugh! :eusa_wall:
Were you able to save any of the wax? or were you too upset over the flooring to care?
I was just remembering, yesterday, the biggest mess I ever made was with a half gallon of honey. The bottom fell out of the jar and honey went all over the stove, floor, and counter. Improper heating will do that. I was so disgusted with myself for wasting all that honey.
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FWIW, I spilled some melted wax on a memorable occasion...some even streaked and splattered down the wall near the spill site. My wife went to google and found the clean up strategy that worked. To remove the last remaining bits of wax all you need is a steam iron, (capable of a penetrating burst of steam), and a roll of paper towels.
Put the paper towel over the last of the wax and a burst of steam through the towel magically melts the wax which is then immediately absorbed into the paper towel. It worked on the floor and the textured wall, (with two layers of paper towel). Not beeswax, it was from a tank I dip my hands in for arthritis pain, but will work for you when your spill is in the house & high risk. High Risk to me because I spilled it in her house!
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Lee, I know about this technique with a steam iron. I had a candle drip down a wall and into my carpet. It works quite nicely, takes a little time but is easy to do.
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Lee, I know about this technique with a steam iron. I had a candle drip down a wall and into my carpet. It works quite nicely, takes a little time but is easy to do.
My good wife has a steam iron with the mother of all pulse charges. It worked well! :)
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:D What the heck is a pulse charge on an iron?
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I didn't know the iron trick, and I spilled about six ounces of over flow on the stove top and lower cabinets. My thoughts are if I spilled three pounds I would sell the house and move before cleaning it up. :):) I will remember the iron and paper towel process.
lazy
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Jen, it is a Rowenta iron with 'Steam Force' like this:
(https://s13.postimg.cc/3uqo5qber/download.png) (https://postimg.cc/image/3uqo5qber/)
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I think Jen's Iron might look a little like this:
(https://s22.postimg.cc/njzupcahp/20161114_161352.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/njzupcahp/)
There's no place to pour water.
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TOUCHE' :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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I think Jen's Iron might look a little like this:
(https://s22.postimg.cc/njzupcahp/20161114_161352.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/njzupcahp/)
There's no place to pour water.
Good one! :laugh:
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Pfft! You're kidding me right? You guys gotta get with the liberal times man!! :D :laugh:
(https://s18.postimg.cc/l6nr60g39/ironing_man.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/l6nr60g39/)
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I always wanted to know how to spell Pfft. :laugh:
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Jen,
Your iron comes with an operator? :)
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She didn't show you the backside.
(https://s17.postimg.cc/8zqg148rv/IMG_0018.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/8zqg148rv/)
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Neil ~ Gosh Darn Right! :D
CBT ~ Check it out! Pft is an actual word... well slang word ;) 8)
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pft
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Wman, I can overlook a lot as long as the ironing gets done :laugh:
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...........funny stuff................ :D
can't say as i iron much, and sure can say and have never seen mr river wearing a pair of heels ironing......... :D
he does know what the iron looks like, but i don't let him near household appliances he forgets to shut off that might start something on fire.......... :D
btw lee, steam iron, towel/paper towel does work well, i did learn this trick from my mother;
i do have an antique iron as wandering man posted....... :D
it sits on a shelf.......... :D
the wax came up easily off the unfinished flooring. we just used a large plastic trowel, a dry wall trowel was at the ready.
all you need to do is wait until the wax is semi soft, it comes up easily.
i won't be doing this anytime soon again.............
no one asked why i had 3lbs of molten wax in the living room, i don't think i will admit as to why i had it there.......... :D :D :D
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no one asked why i had 3lbs of molten wax in the living room, i don't think i will admit as to why i had it there.......... :D :D :D
We don't need to ask. You have 3lbs of molten wax in the living room because your a beekeeper.
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very true wandering man, very true! i have managed to get honey and wax on the floor in the kitchen.....BUT......it's MY kitchen........ :D :D :D
one time i had a customer bring me an older jack daniels whiskey bottle (gallon)he wanted honey in it. it was sort of a challenge to fill with a narrow top. not sure what happened, i filled the jug, set it aside, picked it up off the counter, and the bottom fell out spilling honey all over my bare feet and the kitchen tile........what a mess! i think i was more worried about the antique jar than i was spilling the honey all over? the customer blew it off and gave me another........ :D
i have had some other mishaps with honey buckets, not so much with wax.
has nothing to do with wax or honey but, one time my husband came home to find me in the bathroom with the door shut, trying to clean up (warm water bath in the sink) a juvenile oriole flying around caked in grape jelly............he opened the door and the oriole flew out, trying to get the water bath/ grape jelly off......you know flapping its wings, fly a bit, land, run faster than us, fly, flap, land, run, repeat.......you get the picture.......
grape jelly is really hard to clean off surfaces.....especially material............ :D :D :D
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:D :D :D Riverbee... your stories... nothing compares :D
Well except Dunkels 50,000 thousand bees and a skunk in the basement... OMG
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how about a skunk in the garage i thought was the neighbors cat............
dang what a smelly operation............... :D
EDIT AND ADD:
never driving around again in a buick with whatever hives we were transporting that came undone...........and the buick smelled like dog urine and bee gone.............
wisconsin doesn't appreciate folks driving around with bee hives and bees flying around in a vehicle........not to mention the driver and passenger wearing veils.......... :D
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Yikes.. Rum and coke is ready and waiting at all times Mrs. River.. :yes:
I do hope to one day arrive at Zweef's house so we an come hunt you down and say Hi. Provided of course we are not put to work scraping a few pounds of wax off the floor :P
Have a friend moving up there somewhere that wants help putting up interior walls etc.. will be up that way in January. Need to find out where he is and where Zweef and you are so I can stop by for a visit. Always wanted to meet a real celebrity like you!!! ;D
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scott, no work for visitors, unless they volunteer.......... :)
zweef is about an hour from me?
our liquor cabinet and fridge full of cold brew is usually stocked............lol, said usually stocked, we have frequent visitors. i am not much of a brew drinker, maybe in summer months after mowing, (or something else)i will enjoy a cold brew from the local brewery..........rush river brewery, good stuff, the stuff i like is .... 'unforgiven'.......lol............. :) :) :)
if you wanted a quick tour, the river is my favorite and of course the bees......but.......... sit on the porch, light a fire in the fire pit off the porch, look out the back at the woods and enjoy conversation scott, and of course something on the grill. summer, maybe a fresh catch of trout. january? .........lol....will be hibernatin'........... :)
an update to spilling 3 lbs of melted wax on the living room hardwoods.... over the weekend i went downstairs to retrieve a box of 25 lbs of wax........
i just wanted to open the box and grab some chunks out of the bag it was in to melt down.........i lifted the bag from the box, (the bottom and sides of the bag totally blew out) and 25 lbs of bees wax chunks spilled out onto the tile floor in my entryway for some distance..........
well, at least it wasn't liquid, but the cleanup was challenging........
i am not sure what it is with me and beeswax this year................ :)
patience tested.......LOL!......... ;D
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Not so bad, but I dumped a 30 lb. pail full of slumgum on the basement floor a week ago. I was cleaning out the sludge in the bottom of my wax melter after draining off the beeswax and honey, and as I lifted the pail of gunk out the handle broke. Fortunately I just let it harden on the concrete floor and then just scraped it up and dumped it into the compost bin where it was headed anyway.
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"btw lee, steam iron, towel/paper towel does work well, i did learn this trick from my mother; "
I came back to this thread to refresh my memory. Iron and paper towels. :yes:
My husband knocked my little wax melter on the ceramic tile kitchen floor. I had a smelly beeswax concoction in there that I had made. :sad: I scraped, scraped, scraped with a brownie server. Then I tried my hair dryer and power towel. My hair dryer doesn't get hot enough. I will try the iron and paper towel trick.
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"I dumped a 30 lb. pail full of slumgum on the basement floor a week ago. I was cleaning out the sludge in the bottom of my wax melter after draining off the beeswax and honey, and as I lifted the pail of gunk out the handle broke. Fortunately I just let it harden on the concrete floor and then just scraped it up"
PICTURES!!!!...........lol!!! just kidding perry..........what a mess? concrete.....i am guessing there is a stain in the concrete floor? still a PITA to clean up.
'My husband knocked my little wax melter on the ceramic tile kitchen floor. I had a smelly beeswax concoction in there that I had made. :sad: I scraped, scraped, scraped with a brownie server. Then I tried my hair dryer and power towel. My hair dryer doesn't get hot enough. I will try the iron and paper towel trick. '
bakers, what are you using for a wax melter? and what smelly beeswax concoction did you have going.........LOL........ :)
the best type of scraper on a tile floor is a hive tool........ :) :) :)..........but that MIGHT scratch your tile, so the next best thing is a wide plastic putty tool/ scraper....it will get the wax up. i keep one handy when making candles. it gets the drips....etc, a little harder to get out of the grout and any wax smears.....so i get after the tile floor using hot water/pinesol, and a scotch brite scouring pad........
works faster than trying to iron up/heat gun with paper towel or cotton cloth in a larger area.........
how do i know this?
............. :) :) :)
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Hey river, and everyone else... have you thought about pouring candle wax into a jelly jar or Mason jar? I think that would be really easy to make a candle out of. When done I would cap with the canning lid and ring. The ring
left in place while burning would make the candle continue to look like a canning/jelly jar. There are all kinds of interesting shapes of canning jars these days. I am not 100% certain, but the jar should withstand the heat.
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i have thought of using mason jars (they will withstand the heat), and some other experiments in tins, small glass jars and a couple small enamel cowboy coffee cups (mini size)! i haven't done so yet but would like to try. i think getting the right wick size would be the challenge for the size of the jar, and dependent on the quality of the beeswax used.
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That's the way I hope to do it, in a jar. There is a wick chart on here somewhere.
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This is a domestic thread. going out to get antifreeze in the truck and plastic over the last 2 windows... (hope all better now Riverbee)
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domestic gypsi?
hmmm, well the wax i spilled on the floor is costly........both in labor and dollars. the wax makes candles for me, which sells, so money for candles.....what i did manage to salvage had to be cleaned/filtered again, after my mistake before i could use what was salvaged to pour candles to sell............it pays bills and pays for some of my expenses....... ;D
the prosthetic hips are doing pretty good, will be a year out from the 2nd surgery feb 1st.....can tell ya i am not doing any ice skating anytime soon!......... :) :) :)
cbt............
the wicking charts i have posted are a guideline only. you have to experiment to ensure the wick you choose burns well in the container. i use square braid wicking, this is the best for beeswax. it can be a challenge, and a great learning curve. i sometimes have the most trouble with votives and sometimes tealights. it is hard to achieve the desired results sometimes (a perfect burning candle).........not tunneling, drowning out, burning too fast, flickering flame, spikey high flame, wax on the side of a votive container etc.......
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They were talking about irons.
not to diminish your wax loss but I don't know where mine is and I am not sure what it does.
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I thought I would give the wick and candle supply store a call before I order. They say the man is very nice and has great advice.
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I am glad your hips are doing well Riverbee. I go in for carpal tunnel surgery tomorrow. My ability to make anything smaller than a waterfall (except bad jokes) has been gradually reduced to zip for the last 17 years. I have insurance for a couple more weeks so getting the surgery done. Perhaps one day I will make a candle too.
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"They were talking about irons."
yes we were! for cleaning up beeswax!........ not to iron lee's shirts....... :) :) :)
lee offered a great suggestion for cleaning beeswax up with an iron.
cbt, the thread with wick suggestions is here:
Making Candles! (http://www.worldwidebeekeeping.com/forum/index.php/topic,4759.msg62579.html#msg62579)
click on the link 'bleached square wick' or download the pdf file i attached. this is atkins and pearce's guide for square braid wicking (the only company i think in the usa that makes it). look at the suggestions for container candles. also, it is not the height of the jar you are using, it is the diameter of the jar to measure and choose a wick size. the height really doesn't matter. what you want to achieve is that the right size wick will burn an even pool across the diameter of your jar. this chart may suggest 3-5 wick sizes. basically it depends on how clean your wax is. wax that contains any honey or debris will require a larger wick, (clogs the wick, doesn't burn properly) and if the wax is really clean, one can use a smaller wick size.
i try my best to avoid this headache with wax/wicks when i clean and melt the wax down. i wash my cappings clean in water. i run my wax through a solar melter and filter heavily. the wax comes out really clean. when i melt wax down for candles, i will pour from a larger pitcher into a smaller pitcher to filter one last time before i pour into a mold. i use a very tight nylon like curtain material rubberbanded on top the smaller pitcher, because this material will catch remaining tiny bits of propolis etc.....
if i know my wax is clean i have less problems with wick selection and being concerned about whether the wax is going to affect how it burns.
also, there is a 'v' in square braid, mentioned in my post on the candle thread. make sure you get the 'v' pointed upright. might not matter for tealights if you get this upside down; but it will make a difference for larger candles and i would think container candles.
i would follow the suppliers advice, and i would also order at least three of the recommended sizes of wicking for the diameter of the jar you will be using.
good luck!
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hope the cleanup went well and the candles are beautiful. Happy Yule.
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thanks gypsi, the cleanup went well.......it was just the initial frustration from spilling that all over the floor with work to get done that day. it just put me behind. the candles are beautiful. candle making really is a work of art and craft.
happy yule back gypsi..........life is good!