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Re: Ontario's the first, will others follow?
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2014, 05:37:11 pm »
Not as long as there is big money in corn and soy beans. :sad: Jack

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Re: Ontario's the first, will others follow?
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2014, 06:11:34 pm »
What ever Ontario does most the other provinces will follow except for Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Manitoba. The prairie farmer is a different breed from the other farmers in the rest of Canada.
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Re: Ontario's the first, will others follow?
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2014, 11:23:01 pm »
ontario has a 'groundbreaking' challenge on their hands, that's where it starts......

like jack, here in the u. s. of a.....

Not as long as there is big money in corn and soy beans. :sad: Jack

sad but true.

we have two lease farmers, kicked one off for bad manners, lack of payment or trade and finally spraying his neonic crops, which he had been asked and agreed not to do right near my hives. 3 weeks ago, caught the other farmer on the other side, spraying his neonic corn with herbicide (pesticide) (which he agreed not to do) near my hives.  not only did he spray herbicide/pesticide on the roadway/rightaway wildflowers and natural  grass coming and going from the field, but overspray hit a buffer field we spent about a grand on native plantings, not to mention all the hard work the last couple years to get it ready and not to mention the bees flying over or through the field to get to the crown vetch on the other side of that. 

arse chewing, but it doesn't undo the damage, and neither does money to pay for the damage done, guess that farmer is going to be paying for and doing the work on the native plantings and for frames of foundation and bees next year to compensate. i figure it's fair.

not sure what these guys are spraying for, ain't a darn weed that grows or living insect that crawls or flys in these neonic crops.
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Re: Ontario's the first, will others follow?
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2014, 11:30:30 pm »
here's hoping the idea spreads

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Re: Ontario's the first, will others follow?
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2014, 09:41:40 am »
There are lots of things to worry about other than neonicotinoids.
It seems the end season Almond disaster was growth regulator related.  Fungicides are another major problem they stop the bee pollen from fermenting and breaking the bee bread cycle. Some new fungicides are systemic.  You can find these in Bayer all in one fertilizer products at your nearest big box store.

Also do not forget that mites may be weakening the bees’ immune system causing greater sensitivity to all other outside factors.
I see a lot of the research data due to my professional agricultural activities.  One reason I started with bees is to sort some of this out.

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Re: Ontario's the first, will others follow?
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2014, 10:18:29 am »
Or vice versa, the neonicotinoide may be weakening the bees immune system where they can't fight the mite invasion. ??? Jack