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Offline barry42001

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Spanish needle?
« on: October 14, 2014, 12:26:44 pm »
Does one know if Spanish Needle genetate alot of nectar, or pollen or both.
My bees are working it hard but not seeing much pollen coming in, they do have adequate stores of pollen for the moment, and I do have mega bee patties for in January stimulative feeding. Figure in 6 weeks they can build up fairly fast so as to be up to strength for early flows.
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Re: Spanish needle?
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2014, 12:44:10 pm »
Morning Barry  :)  Curious, is the mega bee patties a pollen patty or a winter patty?
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Re: Spanish needle?
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2014, 12:58:21 pm »
Pollen patties, and infact don't believe there's a difference between the two. Adult honeybees don't eat pollen/ bee bread,  only larvae, so it's for brood rearing if even on a limited scale.  :D
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Re: Spanish needle?
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2014, 06:36:12 pm »
barry, was curious, we don't have spanish needle, but googled it and read a number of articles.  it appears it is a good source of both pollen and nectar!

jen, start a thread on your question........ :D
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Re: Spanish needle?
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2014, 07:45:09 pm »
Oops! Okee Doke, thanks  :)
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Re: Spanish needle?
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2014, 11:31:57 pm »
Barry, the bees work it hard here also and i like it for that reason only, it's a pain in the butt when you walk through it after it goes to seed. You can spend a half hour picking those little needles off you pant legs >:(,. Jack

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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2014, 11:18:46 am »
LOL yes it is a pain to pick out all those barbed seeds
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Re: Spanish needle?
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2014, 12:54:55 am »
barry,

i stumbled across the spanish needle while reading up on honey plants, i thought i would post this for you.  this description comes from John Lovell's book; Honey Plants of North America (1926):

"SPANISH NEEDLES (Bidens aristosa)

The honey has a golden color, excellent flavor, and good body, weighing full 12 pounds to the gallon.  It is so thick that there is little water to  evaporate and the cells can be sealed soon after they are filled.  This plant has showy, large yellow-rayed heads, and yields immense quantities of honey along the bottom lands of the Mississippi and Illinois rivers.  It is found in swamps from Illinois to Louisiana, blooming from August to October and yielding a honey which is superior to, or is unsurpassed by, that from any other fall flowers.

A typical Spanish needles-swamp is located at the foot of the bluffs of the Illinois river where there is a broad expanse of low marshy land from 3 to 5 miles wide.  This land is subject to an overflow from the river once a year, which usually occurs in early spring.  This renders a large portion of the soil unfit for tilling purposes and in consequence Spanish needles has secured a permanent foothold to the exclusion and of nearly all other plants.  Early in September the bright yellow rays begin to appear, and in a short time the whole district is aglow, and its dazzling brilliancy reminds one of a burnished sheet of gold.  The bee’s revel in this great field of flowers, so rich in nectar, and rapidly store a surplus.  A single colony stored 63 pounds of honey  in six days and 43 colonies produced 2021 pounds and 10 days, an average of 47 pounds per colony.

There are many other species of Bidens widely distributed throughout America, all of which are of more or less value to the bee’s. The common beggar-ticks (Bidens frondosa) is one of the most abundant.  They are all fall flowers, and usually grow in wet places, one species being aquatic."

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Re: Spanish needle?
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2014, 10:39:32 am »
Well thank you riverbee, this is certainly Spanish needle very nice flavor and aroma, bit more viscous then other honeys.
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Re: Spanish needle?
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2014, 10:55:09 am »
It seems to be everywhere here in SW Mo. scattered through the woods open fields, but like said mostly in low wet land. The problem with it is the seed head, if your hunting and walk through a patch of it you can have thousands of little needles sticking on you pant legs. :o The wife says, those have to come off before they go in the washer. >:( Jack

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Re: Spanish needle?
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2014, 03:54:01 pm »
Lol yep:P
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