Author Topic: Mystery ??  (Read 4320 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline brooksbeefarm

  • Gold Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 2566
  • Thanked: 89 times
  • Location: fair grove, mo.
Mystery ??
« on: January 05, 2015, 09:52:08 pm »
My son called and said i have some bad news dad :o. Said he was at one of my outyards looking for deer signs and seen two of my hives had been knock over and the bees were dead,said he left them alone because he didn't know what to do (he's not into bees. YET ;D). Well i drove up there (35 miles one way) and seen the two middle hives turned over (there 8 hives in that yard) they are all on concrete blocks, one hive was on it's back with the bottomboard still setting on the blocks and the lid about 2 ft. away the wind could blow all the way through it and some dead bees on the ground. I stood it up and  started to take it apart to salvage the honey (it was heavy), i heard a buzz the same time i felt a hit, my left hand and arm had 30 or more bees crawling on it, i put the lid on it and set it back on the bottomboaed, 2 deeps ans a med. super (it strained my milk) ;D, but got it done :yes:.
  The other one  was up side down with the lid still on and the bottomboard  still on the blocks, it also was 2 deeps and a med. super, not as heavy but still enough stores left. I pecked on the side and sure enough  i heard a loud buzz (put my smock and hood on this time :D. and got it back on the bottomboard, bees strarted coming out the top entrance at me :o. These hives are about 5 ft. apart with 4 hives in the front row and 4 hives in back of them. The hives turned over was the two in the middle of the front row? They are in the woods below hills on the east and north i don't know how long they were turned over and we've had several nights in the 20's and todays high was 30F, never seen any sign of vandals or the leaves shuffled around the hives? We did have some strong winds, but the hives were to heavy to be blowed over?? Now to wait and see if they make it through the winter, the boxes never came apart when i set them up and set them back on the blocks there was leaves froze to the hive parts that came in contact to the ground so they had to of been that way for awhile? I'm thinking deer maybe? any idea's or advice? Jack

Offline Perry

  • Global Moderator
  • Gold Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 7382
  • Thanked: 390 times
  • Gender: Male
    • Brandt's Bees
  • Location: Annapolis Valley, Nova Scotia
Re: Mystery ??
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2015, 09:58:34 pm »
Sorry to hear about that Jack. You've done all you can do really. I will say that the bees are incredible when it comes to surviving this sort of thing though. I had 2 hives vandalized, knocked clean apart, set there for 3 days, one of them with enough rain that the telescoping covers were full of water, and they survived.
I don't know what caused your trouble, but mine have been the two legged variety the twice it's happened.
"It is not the man who has too little, but the man who craves more, that is poor."      
Forum Supporter

Offline Bakersdozen

  • Global Moderator
  • Gold Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 4574
  • Thanked: 489 times
  • Gender: Female
  • Location: Olathe, Kansas
Re: Mystery ??
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2015, 10:37:54 pm »
Although Missouri has some black bears, this doesn't sound like bears.  You didn't mention anything about cattle, so I am dismissing that idea.  Is there any sign of deer rubbing their antlers on the boxes?  I hope those remaining bees are big enough to cluster and make it to spring.  It's always something.

Offline brooksbeefarm

  • Gold Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 2566
  • Thanked: 89 times
  • Location: fair grove, mo.
Re: Mystery ??
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2015, 11:04:26 pm »
Bears would have tore them apart for the larva, no sign of cattle (tracks, manure,ect.), there are lots of deer but no antler marks or tracks, very few youngsters around close. Very strange?? Jack

Offline Lburou

  • Gold Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 2284
  • Thanked: 315 times
  • Location: DFW area, Texas, USA, growing zone 7a
Re: Mystery ??
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2015, 11:42:24 pm »
Weather can be bad sometimes....And bees do survive.  A tornado scattered three of my hives 18 months ago and they survived.  Good luck on your efforts to set them up again Jack.  :)
Lee_Burough

Offline LogicalBee

  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 220
  • Thanked: 14 times
  • Gender: Male
  • Location: Michigan
Re: Mystery ??
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2015, 12:05:39 am »
Might be time for a trail cam?

Offline GLOCK

  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 182
  • Thanked: 2 times
  • Gender: Male
  • Location: SNOW SHOE PA.
Re: Mystery ??
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2015, 04:03:14 pm »

Helps with the two legged variety.
Say hello to the bad guy.
5 year Beekeeper/40 hives/ treat{oav}

Offline Zweefer

  • Administrator
  • Gold Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 1831
  • Thanked: 165 times
  • Gender: Male
  • Location: Eau Claire WI
Re: Mystery ??
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2015, 04:10:36 pm »
Sorry to hear about your troubles.  I guess all i can say is they were both still alive?  I would assume you had already counted them out, so there is that silver lining.  If they don't survive, you are to where you were on the trip up?

Best of luck!
Keeping of bees is like the direction of sunbeams.
Henry David Thoreau

Offline Curtchann

  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 211
  • Thanked: 13 times
  • Gender: Male
  • Location: Hopkins, MI
Re: Mystery ??
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2015, 06:16:31 pm »
I would have to agree with LogicalBee on the trail cam. Many a mystery has been solved with those nifty little gadgets!

Offline brooksbeefarm

  • Gold Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 2566
  • Thanked: 89 times
  • Location: fair grove, mo.
Re: Mystery ??
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2015, 06:41:20 pm »
Good idea, my son got me one for Christmas :bee: :bee: Jack

Offline Jen

  • Platinum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10175
  • Thanked: 240 times
  • Gender: Female
  • Location: Upper California
Re: Mystery ??
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2015, 06:49:47 pm »
In my opinion, it seems that hives that heavy would have to have been pushed over by a mischievious two legged culpit.. get that camera up asap  :yes:
There Is Peace In The Queendom

Offline brooksbeefarm

  • Gold Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 2566
  • Thanked: 89 times
  • Location: fair grove, mo.
Re: Mystery ??
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2015, 07:02:38 pm »
That was my first thought, but there was 6 more within 5 ft. of each other not touched and it's been to cold for them to break cluster and attack who or what knocked them over? Jack

Offline apisbees

  • Global Moderator
  • Gold Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 3723
  • Thanked: 331 times
  • Gender: Male
  • Location: Vernon B.C.
Re: Mystery ??
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2015, 08:55:00 pm »
they broke cluster to come out and see what you were doing to them and you were trying to be gental. they went over harder and would have came boiling out when pushed over. regardless of temperature.
Honey Judge, Beekeeping Display Coordinator, Armstrong Fair and Rodeo.

Offline riverbee

  • Gold Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 8924
  • Thanked: 410 times
  • Gender: Female
  • ***Forum Sponsor***
  • Location: El Paso Twp, Wisconsin
Re: Mystery ??
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2015, 09:14:58 pm »
jack,  critter of some sort, not sure, but coons maybe? they can tip hives over......
i keep wild things in a box..........™
if you obey the rules, you miss all the fun.....katherine hepburn
Forum Sponsor

Offline robo

  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 857
  • Thanked: 86 times
  • Gender: Male
  • Beekeep On!
    • Ramblings, Rants, & Ravings
  • Location: Scenic Catskill Mountains
Re: Mystery ??
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2015, 10:23:34 pm »
I have never seen a deer knock over a hive,  but I know cows like to rub against them and will knock them over,  so perhaps deer will too.

Too late now,  but I put a 1" ratchet strap around all my hives,  this way if they do get knocked over they stay intact and closed up.   I mainly do it because of bear, but it helps with whatever the reason.   If it were two legged vandals,  I would suspect they would have done more than just two. Obviously whatever satisfaction they would get by doing it would be multiplied the more times they did it.

"Opportunity is missed by most people because it comes dressed in overalls and looks like work." - Thomas Edison


Offline brooksbeefarm

  • Gold Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 2566
  • Thanked: 89 times
  • Location: fair grove, mo.
Re: Mystery ??
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2015, 09:58:57 pm »
After meeting the surveyor (post, good deal or bad) i drove to my other out yards in the area and all was well. Jack

Offline Barbarian

  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 503
  • Thanked: 28 times
  • Gender: Male
  • Location: Manchester, United Kingdom
Re: Mystery ??
« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2015, 06:00:15 am »
GLOCK  ...... liked your pictures.        Is there a story behind their usage  ??

I've got notices on some of my hives.        BEWARE ...... BEE STINGS CAN KILL
" Another Owd Codger "