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Discouraged Beekeepers ~ Winter Die Offs
« on: January 29, 2015, 12:04:16 pm »
i was sent this article this morning by a good friend, the article is from the wall street journal:

More Beekeepers Sour on Profession as Winter Die-Offs Continue

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"More Beekeepers Sour on Profession as Winter Die-Offs Continue
Rising Cost of Doing Business Takes Toll on Industry That Pollinates $15 Billion of Crops



Orin Johnson checks a small portion of his 500 bee colonies in the foothills around Hughson, Calif., earlier this month.


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Tennille Tracy
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Orin Johnson, a second-generation beekeeper in California, has started to consider a life without his 500 colonies of honey bees.

At 67, he doesn’t work as fast as he once did, and yet his bees require greater amounts of time and money to maintain. A near constant barrage of threats, from pesticides to parasites, wiped out more than half of Mr. Johnson’s colonies last year.

“The costs are just getting out of hand,” he said. “I’m getting tired of it.”

Plenty of Mr. Johnson’s colleagues are in the same boat. Increasing numbers of beekeepers, who are generally in their 50s and 60s, are considering early retirement or are being forced out of business as honey bees continue to die at alarming rates.

For nearly a decade, beekeepers have been losing roughly 30% of their bees each winter, above the 19% depletion rate they say is sustainable, according to the Bee Informed Partnership, a group funded by the Agriculture Department to study bee health. While beekeepers can replenish their colonies by splitting and repopulating healthy hives, it is hard for them to recoup the costs of doing so.

“We’re not worried about the bees going extinct,” said Dennis vanEngelsdorp, a bee researcher at the University of Maryland. “We’re worried about the beekeepers going extinct.”

The government doesn’t track employment statistics on commercial beekeepers, but the White House cited particular concern over the fate of professional beekeepers when it created a task force in June to address bee deaths.

Tim Tucker, president of the American Beekeeping Federation and a beekeeper in Kansas, said the number of professional beekeepers on its membership roster has fallen by at least half in the last two decades.

A dwindling supply of beekeepers is troubling for U.S. agriculture. Honey bees pollinate more than $15 billion of crops each year, including almonds, apples and cherries, and are responsible for pollinating one-third of the American diet. Without enough beekeepers, U.S. crop production could slow, forcing consumers to pay more for their food or rely more heavily on imported items.

Almond growers, who rely almost exclusively on honey bees for pollination, have seen the price of bee rentals increase 30% since 2006. Paramount Farms in California, one of the country’s largest almond growers, has started to look for beekeeping operations it can own independently to ensure a steady supply of pollinators as times get tougher for beekeepers.

The honey bee crisis dates back to at least 2006, when beekeepers first reported a troubling phenomenon known as colony collapse disorder. Adult bees were simply vanishing from their hives, leaving behind the younger bees, the queen and the honey.


Orin Johnson assesses the strength of one of his bee colonies outside Hughson, Calif., this month. Photo: Justin Kaneps for The Wall Street Journal

There are now about 2.5 million honey-producing colonies, according to the Agriculture Department. That is about flat from 15 years ago, but masks the fact that the total number of large commercial beekeepers has fallen by at least several hundred, while the number of small hobbyists has grown, Mr. Tucker said. The colony total is down from 6 million in the 1940s.

There are signs this winter will bring more hefty losses, Mr. Tucker said. He lost nearly 40% of his colonies between September and November.

It is still unclear what is killing the bees. Scientists blame a combination of parasites, pesticides and poor nutrition, among other factors, but haven’t determined a single cause.

The Varroa mite, a blood-sucking parasite that weakens bees and brings diseases into the hive, is a common culprit. At the Department of Agriculture’s bee laboratory in Beltsville, Md., scientists routinely dissect and inspect dead bees, sent to them by beekeepers nationwide, looking for signs of the mite.

“If we could remove the Varroa mite from the equation, we’d be back at a sustainable level of loss,” said Jay Evans, a research entomologist at the Agriculture Department.

With so many potential threats to their bees, veteran beekeepers say their job has gotten increasingly expensive and complex.

The annual cost of maintaining a hive has quadrupled in the last 15 years, Mr. Tucker said. It now costs about $230,000 a year for a professional beekeeper running a modest 2,000 hives. Expensive items include mite treatments and protein supplements that support the bees’ diet as natural forage options dwindle.

Jim Doan, a third-generation beekeeper in New York state, was forced to sell his 112-acre farm in 2013, after losing most of his bees several years in a row. He tried to bounce back, buying new hives and diligently trying to ward off pests and disease, but nothing worked. Mr. Doan blames pesticides for the death of his bees. “I love the bee business, but I don’t see a future in the bee business,” he said.

For now, beekeepers say they are being kept afloat by high honey prices, which reached a record $2.12 a pound in 2013, according to the most recent government data, and the lucrative pollination fees they receive from farmers.

Write to Tennille Tracy at tennille.tracy@wsj.com "


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Re: Discouraged Beekeepers ~ Winter Die Offs
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2015, 12:11:08 pm »
I read that article too.
While folks worry about the bees going extinct, they forget about the beekeepers.
In all honesty it really doesn't make much sense to try and make money at this. The moment you get big enough to actually make money at it, the risks associated with it become too great. I would never encourage someone to go into this to make a living. If they do get into it and then decide to make a living through it that's different. You have to love it to do it.
There are way too many other ways to make money with a lot less work involved and a lot less risk.
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Re: Discouraged Beekeepers ~ Winter Die Offs
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2015, 01:20:33 pm »
They make some good points, but I believe the hive beetle is a giant problem just around the corner.
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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2015, 01:24:59 pm »
Beekeeping is just a hobby for me. I put a limit on the number of hives I need. I keep my cost very affordable. I believe the hobby beekeeper can survive if he stays under 10 hives. Keep your mite load down.

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Re: Discouraged Beekeepers ~ Winter Die Offs
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2015, 03:10:08 pm »
There's no avoiding it----time makes all beekeepers grow older and with age our ability to handle large numbers of hives suffers.
There are many correct points in the article but the biggest hurdle is getting young beekeepers, with plenty of energy and willingness to face the challenges of the profession to get into beekeeping.

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Re: Discouraged Beekeepers ~ Winter Die Offs
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2015, 04:30:45 pm »
Interesting article, thanks for posting River....gives one things to mull over. :)

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Re: Discouraged Beekeepers ~ Winter Die Offs
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2015, 05:04:11 pm »
Me too Ray, I can't handle more than 4, I have 3 now from a Fall combine.
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Re: Discouraged Beekeepers ~ Winter Die Offs
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2015, 06:09:42 pm »
I think if crop pollination prices stay the way they are now.(Almonds)
There will always be folks ready to fill any openings that become available.
If the Almond Industry ever fails, that could mean the end for many commercials.

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Re: Discouraged Beekeepers ~ Winter Die Offs
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2015, 06:43:59 pm »
it is an interesting article.
this statement sort of stuck out in my brain:

“We’re not worried about the bees going extinct,” said Dennis vanEngelsdorp, a bee researcher at the University of Maryland. “We’re worried about the beekeepers going extinct.”

i have seen many beekeepers, (not commercial) give up and quit, primarily because they lost colonies every year. and in some cases, because of the cost. i have seen new beeks get started, and quit within 3 or so years for the same reasons, and many others, the challenges we face with pests, diseases and other elements. weather, pesticides, lack of pollen, lack of nectar, etc......

like perry said, you won't make money, "You have to love it to do it. "
i spend more money on bees, equipment, whatever bee related than i will ever make, and i do it because i love it.
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Re: Discouraged Beekeepers ~ Winter Die Offs
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2015, 05:33:42 am »
My mentor says he might make 50 cents an hour, and says the same thing" It's for the love of my bees"

 He will be out and about from sun rise til dark just messing with the bees.

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« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2015, 08:17:35 am »
He will be out and about from sun rise til dark just messing with the bees.
A day well spent!   :)
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« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2015, 11:49:10 pm »

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Re: Discouraged Beekeepers ~ Winter Die Offs
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2015, 12:45:54 am »
indeed a day well spent!

   it is my fervent hope, that getting new beekeepers going and interested, and helping them keep their bees ALIVE will spawn a new generation.. A generation that does not know, or remember keeping bees even a short 20 years ago. So to them, these problems are current and PART of keeping bees, as opposed to the older beekeepers who remember the glory days of NOT having to struggle much, if at all.
   Does that make sense?  I hope I explained that well enough to understand.
   i do remember taking care of hives without treating for mites, but some of the things that stand out vividly in my memory are splitting hives to refill the dead hives after spraying. I always knew when I saw the crop dusters that i would be in for a few long days of getting stung.. but if I wanted my 5 dollars a day I had to deal with it...
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« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2015, 10:56:56 am »
indeed a day well spent!

   it is my fervent hope, that getting new beekeepers going and interested, and helping them keep their bees ALIVE will spawn a new generation.. A generation that does not know, or remember keeping bees even a short 20 years ago. So to them, these problems are current and PART of keeping bees, as opposed to the older beekeepers who remember the glory days of NOT having to struggle much, if at all.
   Does that make sense?  I hope I explained that well enough to understand.
   i do remember taking care of hives without treating for mites, but some of the things that stand out vividly in my memory are splitting hives to refill the dead hives after spraying. I always knew when I saw the crop dusters that i would be in for a few long days of getting stung.. but if I wanted my 5 dollars a day I had to deal with it...

I haven't got to read it yet (maybe today or tomorrow) but the latest issue of Countryside & Small Stock Journal magazine has beehives on the cover and a story, "Beekeeping - How To Start Your First Colony"

So I guess they're trying to inform homesteaders and country folk of the virtues of beekeeping.
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Re: Discouraged Beekeepers ~ Winter Die Offs
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2015, 12:27:40 pm »
Our bee club has a bee school going now and we have a limit of 80 students and we are always maxed out. If 30% stay with it through the second year i would be surprised. ???. Like the article says, it's getting harder and harder to keep your bees alive from one year to the next. The cost of supplies keep going up and they usually don't get honey there first year and have to buy more bees at a higher price, and begin to think they found a money pit and quit >:(. Like my buddy Perry that i sometimes agree with ;D said, you've got to love it. Jack

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« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2015, 06:21:46 am »
I was asked if I was going to keep going if I lost all my hives, At the time I thought it was an odd question but now understand.
  Spending hundreds of dollars to lug heavy equipment,sweating,getting stung, etc. just to have them all die.
   
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« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2015, 07:11:36 am »
I agree with the other lazy.  We have new beekeepers coming into the business, and they do not remember the "good old days."  Like most of agriculture, if one approaches bees as a "return on investment" (ROI), it is indeed a poor business.  But the smaller family farmers around me all face a poor ROI, yet they keep on farming those million dollar farms and squeaking out thirty-thousand dollars a year.  They could sell the farm, bank the money in safe investments, and be a WalMart greeter for the same money.  The reason family farmers don't prosper according to their skills, is that too many people want to farm.  Their desire to live on and work a farm is so great that they are willing to subject themselves to a life of poverty.  From those good souls will come the next beekeepers.  Thankfully, everyone is as monetarily driven as some of us.


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Re: Discouraged Beekeepers ~ Winter Die Offs
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2015, 09:16:19 am »
Anybody want to look into their crystal ball and guess about beekeeping without almonds? The day is coming, it always does, sooner or later.  I'm not trying to be 'Chicken Little' here, just curious.
I don't know how much honey comes off the almond groves, but there sure are a lot of packages that do. I imagine a lot of the 'almond bees' go on to pollinate other crops, west of the Rockies.

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« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2015, 09:55:28 am »
I would think water may be more of a limiting factor than pollination regarding the almonds.
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« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2015, 10:43:22 am »
With the drought going on in Cali. i hear that the trees are dying? It's been said that it takes a million hives to pollinate the Almond's and one gallon of water to grow each almond in Cali.? If they don't start getting rain i think it's going to have a big impact on the pollinating industry and bee population? JMHO, Jack