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Re: Treatment day
« Reply #20 on: August 26, 2016, 10:50:49 pm »
scott, love the cart/wagon!  we have one just like it........ours is prettier though......it's red AND  has a wisconsin license plate on the back end............ :D

not to take away from the thread, i haven't used oxalic, seems to be a good viable/successful option for those who treat for mites using it....and thanks to you scott for the education.

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Re: Treatment day
« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2016, 05:22:44 am »
Next to his gray my yellow one is real pretty. Only thing that should be red is a tractor MKH or MF brand.



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Re: Treatment day
« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2016, 08:21:10 am »
anyone tried a coffee cup immersion heater. I've seen where they put a copper plumbing cap in the hole to hold the OA. i'm asking because I have a generator I could use to power it.
http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/1/1/146576-portable-immersion-heater.html

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Re: Treatment day
« Reply #23 on: August 27, 2016, 04:46:32 pm »
anyone tried a coffee cup immersion heater. I've seen where they put a copper plumbing cap in the hole to hold the OA. i'm asking because I have a generator I could use to power it.
http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/1/1/146576-portable-immersion-heater.html

What would you use that for? ???
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Re: Treatment day
« Reply #24 on: August 27, 2016, 05:18:21 pm »
All that thing needs is a flame paint job! :)
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Re: Treatment day
« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2016, 04:46:40 pm »
To heat your oxalic acid to let it vaporize  C:-)  Sir Perry

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Re: Treatment day
« Reply #26 on: August 28, 2016, 05:01:52 pm »
The immersion heaters I have known will burn out quickly if exposed to air while on. I would think this one would do the same.
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Re: Treatment day
« Reply #27 on: August 28, 2016, 05:12:30 pm »
anyone tried a coffee cup immersion heater. I've seen where they put a copper plumbing cap in the hole to hold the OA. i'm asking because I have a generator I could use to power it.
http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/1/1/146576-portable-immersion-heater.html
I have seen youtube video of one used with a copper pipe cap and it seemed to work but how long it would last without burning out I couldn't say-they are built for immersion so I'm a little doubtful.
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Re: Treatment day
« Reply #28 on: August 28, 2016, 08:26:15 pm »
What kind of rig do you use LazyBkp and do you keep use any safety equipment?

Back when I did play a bit with treatments (aside from the A&M bees about 8 years back) I made up some glow plug vaporizer and use a marine battery set up to gas the oxalic.  I did have a full face mask (the kind used in spraying auto paint) which must of looked kind of funny with a veil on top of my head!

If applied at precisely the right time (which is easier said than done) one treatment makes a significant difference in how the bees perform.. at least over the short run.

If you do this a smoker is a good thing to have just to keep you alert to the direction of the wind.  You do not want to breathe the fumes.   

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Re: Treatment day
« Reply #29 on: August 29, 2016, 09:27:24 am »
What kind of rig do you use LazyBkp and do you keep use any safety equipment?

   Not sure I understand the question? The Cart I posted pictures of with Varrox vaporizors?

Back when I did play a bit with treatments (aside from the A&M bees about 8 years back) I made up some glow plug vaporizer and use a marine battery set up to gas the oxalic.  I did have a full face mask (the kind used in spraying auto paint) which must of looked kind of funny with a veil on top of my head!

   I tinkered with diesel glow plugs, a handheld butane torch with a homemade copper vaporizor etc. in an attempt to make something a little more usable for multiple applications.   The Varrox are a bit pricey, but sure are easier than all the tinkering. I found out someone had already made a commercial style applicator and gave up on my own attempts.

If applied at precisely the right time (which is easier said than done) one treatment makes a significant difference in how the bees perform.. at least over the short run.

   Have to agree with that completely.


If you do this a smoker is a good thing to have just to keep you alert to the direction of the wind.  You do not want to breathe the fumes.

  I have a canister style respirator and black rubber gloves that are big enough to comfortably go on over my bee gloves...  But I have not used either of them in quite a long while now.
   I have gotten OA on my hand when filling the vaporizor, did not know it until it started to itch..   If you have ever gotten battery acid on your skin, it is a similar feeling, but not nearly as bad. Batttery acid goes from itch to hurt in a short time, OA stops itching almost as soon as you wash it off..
   I grew up at a time when we didn't use hearing protection in the military when we were at the range, when Brake dust meant you had to wash your hands and face, and filling new batteries with acid was relegated to the KID...   I dont think there is such a thing as a battery you have to fill with acid when you buy a new one any more?

   It took quite a while for me to finally get a whiff of OA.. i always stayed up wind and took my time... increasing hive numbers changed the "time" and relaxation into a more hurried application... I got too close too soon moving the vaporizors...  Locked up, coughed, got upwind fast...  I coughed two or three times, waited a few more moments, then proceeded with no more trouble... lesson learned, NO more hurrying, and yes, the bees get smoked before I slide the vaporizor in their hive. You can see it sitting on top of the pallet lid in the picture.

  Immersion type heaters NEED to have a heat sink of some type hooked to the coils, and the time they can be left on is limited by the amount of time it takes them to "overheat" Some heat up faster than others.
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