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Re: Attempting My First Cut Out
« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2014, 12:38:49 pm »
Lazy shooter it will be more work to cut than to take the full boards off. You can see by the photos that the boards are only Nailed top, middle block, and at the bottom. The nails used are a fine head Finnish nail, which will pull thru the siding if they are longer than 1 1/2" long. The top of the boards do not go up under the soffit so there in nothing restricting the boards from being removed.
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Re: Attempting My First Cut Out
« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2014, 01:30:57 pm »
Because of the gentleman I'll be working with on the day of the cut out (he's a half bubble off) I'll need to make this as easy as possible for the both of us. I'm reading all of your suggestions and working on a plan, and I have time to listen more. Thanks all of you on helping me with this new adventure.
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Re: Attempting My First Cut Out
« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2014, 06:03:50 pm »
Scott- "If I can fill 12 to 14 frames with brood I do it. More bees to fill the hive, less comb they have to draw, more reason for them to STAY in the box I put them in...

     Phill's hive is a single deep. If I fill all 10 frames with brood, where will the queen lay? Should I have a medium w/foundation ready to put on top?

     Or...what I was picturing was, maybe 5 broods in the middle, then some nectar on each side to get them thru until they find the groceries out at he and his wife's place, and then a couple of frames of pulled wax so the queen can continue to lay? I thought it would look like a split..  ?  scratching head
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Re: Attempting My First Cut Out
« Reply #23 on: July 03, 2014, 07:19:13 pm »
only worry about saving the brood the bees will draw the new combs they need quick enough and they can be given a little syrup to keep them going if needed.
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Re: Attempting My First Cut Out
« Reply #24 on: July 03, 2014, 07:53:28 pm »
Last piece of advice make sure that you orient the comb correctly or you'll be leaking stuff all over the place. As the bees build the comb they have it with a 1 to 3 degree angle upwards. If you put it in upside down the bees will rework it to make it right.
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Re: Attempting My First Cut Out
« Reply #25 on: July 03, 2014, 09:05:14 pm »
Apis- "Last piece of advice make sure that you orient the comb correctly or you'll be leaking stuff all over the place. As the bees build the comb they have it with a 1 to 3 degree angle upwards. If you put it in upside down the bees will rework it to make it right.

     Ooooooh Riiiiight!! I would have forgotten that fine point right there! Thanks Apis!  ;D

     
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Re: Attempting My First Cut Out
« Reply #26 on: July 03, 2014, 09:09:22 pm »
Your welcome but it was Barry that posted it.
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« Reply #27 on: July 03, 2014, 10:18:39 pm »
Oh Dang it! Rot Good bito information rot thar Barry  :)  Thanks!
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« Reply #28 on: July 03, 2014, 10:35:20 pm »
Unhuh, I know on very rare occasions I have those pearls of wisdom
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Re: Attempting My First Cut Out
« Reply #29 on: July 03, 2014, 11:04:32 pm »
Good advice from both Apis and Barry there.
   As stated. worry about the brood. If you can cut six frames worth of brood then do it. put the empty frames outside of that. Give them syrup when hived so they have the instant resource they need to survive, and to build comb. They will get organized within a couple days and get guards and foragers going. Having the syrup will get them up to speed with nothing stored in the hive you put them in.
   If they have long thin combs in that wall, it may take three pieces to fill a frame if you keep it oriented right. That is perfectly OK, and exactly what you want to do.
   I am excited for you. This is a fantastic learning experience you wont soon forget.
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Re: Attempting My First Cut Out
« Reply #30 on: July 04, 2014, 01:02:11 pm »
Some times on soft wood like cedar siding it is much easier to use a nail set or long punch with a small point ground on it to drive the nails on through the siding rather than try to pull them. Of course this only works it the nail head is small.

I would get them from the outside, remove the battens and boards in one piece. More than likely just between two studs.

I find taking two step ladders and putting two boards between them to make a "scaffold" of sorts works great and easier than a ladder leaned up against the wall.

Don't forget your smoker, it will work wonders moving bees around.
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