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Talk about stupid?
« on: May 27, 2015, 08:59:36 pm »
A man was wade fishing in the James river with his girl friend or wife, (never caught that part?) and was bitten by a Cotton mouth snake (twice) the lady with him wanted to take him to the emergency room,but he refused :o. Said he didn't have any insurance and couldn't afford it ??? Well he got worse during he night but still wouldn't go to the Hospital, He died in his sleep. :sad:. Jack
PS, this was on the 6 pm local news last night.

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Re: Talk about stupid?
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2015, 09:06:15 pm »
Darwin candidate.
“Listen to the mustn'ts, child. Listen to the don'ts. Listen to the shouldn'ts, the impossibles, the won'ts. Listen to the never haves, then listen close to me... Anything can happen, child. Anything can be.”
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Re: Talk about stupid?
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2015, 09:29:37 pm »
Painful way to go  :sad:  Maybe there was another reason he didn't want to have a doc examine him, like street drugs in his blood.
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Re: Talk about stupid?
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2015, 09:57:21 pm »
Darwin candidate.

Exactly what I was going to say!
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Re: Talk about stupid?
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2015, 10:21:08 pm »
Reminds me of a guy years ago at the Waynoka Oklahoma Rattlesnake hunt.  He came into the bar and after bit got sicker than a dog.  He finally had someone call an ambulance he said he got bit by a rattlesnake.  When EMS got there he told them he got bit in the campground and was walking to the EMS station when he stopped at the bar.  He thought he could flush the venom out of his system with beer
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Re: Talk about stupid?
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2015, 12:43:09 am »
makes me thankful for our universal health care up here.  We have terrible wait times for specialists, but at least I won't go broke just because I need fixing.
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Re: Talk about stupid?
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2015, 06:26:37 am »
makes me thankful for our universal health care up here.  We have terrible wait times for specialists, but at least I won't go broke just because I need fixing.

Careful Pete. There may be a huge migration up here if everybody knew. ;) ;D :D
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Re: Talk about stupid?
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2015, 06:28:14 am »
Nature culling out the weak (minded) ones.  Very sad.

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Re: Talk about stupid?
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2015, 08:56:03 am »
Universal health care has been in the US for decades.  If one goes to an emergency room, the hospital is required to treat them.  Now we have double jeopardy health care.  But, to the point, many people just don't take care of their business, even their own health.  It is sad, because most of us have someone that cares about us.  Things like this remind me of one of my dad's quote.  Dad said, "the one thing you can't save people from is themselves."

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Re: Talk about stupid?
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2015, 09:41:53 am »
One of my brothers said that the cost of the serum for a Copperhead bite is $4,000.00 a shot? Don't know what it would be for a Cottonmouth bite.They are both pit vipers? Jack

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Re: Talk about stupid?
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2015, 09:44:50 am »
Actually Lazy Shooter if you show up and are DYING the emergency room is required to treat you. If you are just sick or injured they are not. and only the county hospital, if you can locate it, is required to treat you. I showed up at one with a dead baby in my stomach in Collin county in 1984. No heart beat at 7.5 months. They sent me home. After 3.5 weeks carrying a dead child I lied about my address and went to Parkland, they did a c section.  Except for Parkland in Dallas the care is pretty bad for indigent patients. Next time you are sick leave your id at home and try that out.  I can tell you where 3 clinics are that take cash and actually treat people. All are primarily spanish speaking doctors

On the other hand, these snakebite victims are darwin candidates.  The flooding in Texas is bringing snakes up out of the creeks.

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Re: Talk about stupid?
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2015, 11:28:23 am »
My wife served on a hospital board in Longview, Texas.  They lost about four million bucks a month treating patients that never paid for their services.  Texas requires that all patients that come to an emergency room be treated.  It is the way that so many of our people can dodge having insurance. 

The hospital that didn't treat you was in the wrong, or maybe their doctor was a dunce, and didn't see the problem.  For sure, I am sorry that you carried a dead baby.  That sounds like an awful experience.

See below:

"The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA)[1] is an act of the United States Congress, passed in 1986 as part of the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (COBRA). It requires hospitals that accept payments from Medicare to provide emergency health care treatment to anyone needing it regardless of citizenship, legal status, or ability to pay. There are no reimbursement provisions. Participating hospitals may not transfer or discharge patients needing emergency treatment except with the informed consent or stabilization of the patient or when their condition requires transfer to a hospital better equipped to administer the treatment.[1]"

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« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2015, 11:42:20 am »
The ER doctor was on the phone in another room yelling for 10 minutes before he sent me home.  I spent the prior 3 months carrying financial paperwork to this hospital once a week attempting to get prenatal care, I was married and had 18 month old twins my husband and I both worked but did not make anywhere near enough money to afford insurance, and the hospital needed more and more and more paperwork, but I never saw a doctor until the baby was dead.

I am not sure if we had medicaid for pregnant women in Texas at the time, but you see I was married so I likely would not have qualified for it.

It was McKinney's county hospital, 3 months after the c section I contacted Parkland, told them about my lie and offered to help them sue the crap out of Mckinney. They had an indigent fund there but they specialized in not using it. Parkland didn't want to pursue it. In 1984 a CSection was about $5000, I was better employed when I had the twins.  They were also delivered at Parkland.

JPS fort worth offers indigent emergency room care. I went there once in 1990. Both my husband and I were unemployed, it was a simple infection.  I did paperwork and waited 12 hours for care, they prescribed drugs I had an allergic reaction to after I told them I was allergic to sulfa antibiotics, I called the day the rash turned up (after 3 doses), had a new job to start in the morning, they wouldn't call in a different prescription wanted me to sit down there for another 12 hours, I went to work, treated the infection with cranberry juice, and never paid the bill of nearly $1000 for functionally lousy care.  I let it sit on my credit report for 7 years til it rolled off.


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Re: Talk about stupid?
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2015, 12:20:24 pm »
All of the above is true. Had a great job and one prenatal visit when pregnant with Arielle, the baby in the unmarked grave in a dallas cemetery.
I told them I was pregnant, and within 2 weeks they told me they weren't going to set up the computer inventory after all. when I went in to get a check signed, another woman had my chair at that computer.  I should have filed for unemployment but I was young and proud and bulletproof.  I didn't, I picked up a telemarketing job so I worked evenings while my husband worked days.
twins had an hour at a neighbor's as we switched shifts. Good jobs are not available for pregnant people. 

I did eventually have a 3rd child who was double insured at birth, and survived. Now I just have to worry about having a thyroid condition, if the ACA is overturned. I never did qualify for medicaid but while my taxes pay for JPS in fort worth, the county hospital, I would probably pay cash and drive to dallas and parkland if I had to have "indigent" health care.  Not likely, I know a couple of private physicians who arent as fancy as my insurance paid doctor but can probably swing a prescription for armour a time of year or 2.  I am sorry this is long and bloody but I am very tired of hearing how there is universal health care in this country.  It is true in some communities but only some.

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Re: Talk about stupid?
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2015, 02:28:29 pm »
"Careful Pete. There may be a huge migration up here if everybody knew.
Tell 'em about the snow we get up here, that'll stop 'em!

   Now Perry... Hubby and I would make great neighbors, shucks, we would even help shovel snow!  :D
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Re: Talk about stupid?
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2015, 03:38:55 pm »
If Canada would let me in I would move. Takes a degree or a lot of cash to emigrate. I don't have either.

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Re: Talk about stupid?
« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2015, 08:03:33 pm »
I have never met a Canadian I didn't like, and what have seen in B.C., Alberta and Vancouver Island is wonderful.  I'm not a fan of their anti gun laws, and I just couldn't take the long winters.  I'm a long summer, hot weather kind of guy.

I have worked with many of the Western Canadian drill rig crews, and those fellows from Saskatchewan around to B.C. are hard working, honest folks with a great work ethic.  They seem to be more related to their pioneer heritage than the Quebec, Toronto crowd.  I really enjoy them.

And, no, Perry I have never met anyone from Nova Scotia.  My fondest memory of Nova Scotia is Ann Murray singing, please don't sell Nova Scotia.