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Offline J-grow

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Legitimate reason to checkerboard?
« on: July 05, 2016, 10:36:06 pm »
I have read about checker boarding to split a hive or to prevent swarming by lessening crowding.

I have a single deep with an excluder and a medium super on top of it that is 3/4 drawn out and partially filled with honey.  I feel like the deep is congested and that I should add another deep.

My question is can I checker board half the frames up into the new deep from the brood chamber?  It seems like it will make them more apt to draw out the new frames of foundation and instantly free up space for them and lastly " make " them occupy both deeps?

Advisable? Crazy? 

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Re: Legitimate reason to checkerboard?
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2016, 11:16:44 pm »
I wouldn't checkerboard. Brood needs warmth and checkerboarding would make that more difficult for the bees. I would move a frame or two of brood up (and centered) into the second deep and keep the rest of the brood pushed together in the bottom deep. Keep all the boxes full of frames.

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Re: Legitimate reason to checkerboard?
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2016, 12:30:53 am »
J-grow, for me I would keep all the brood together as well, warmth, and cooling when the bees are fanning inside, because that is how the bees lay the brood. But I would checker board the outer edges. And also I have checker boarded the honey supers.
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Re: Legitimate reason to checkerboard?
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2016, 08:41:17 am »
Walt Wright's 'checkerboarding' for swarm control leaves the entire brood chamber untouched.   The brood chamber functions best after it reaches a minimum size and is undisturbed. Splitting the brood nest will set the hive back and open the door to small hive beetles.

If you want to start a second deep for the expansion of the brood chamber, you can open the sides of the brood nest, as described by Jen, by removing the already drawn frames from just outside the brood nest in the first box and place them in your new box just over the brood nest (replacing them with frames and foundation).  Sometimes I have placed an empty frame between them in the new box if there is a good honey flow, but probably not at this time of year, Florida is probably different.

If you have Small Hive Beetles, they will have more opportunity with more space.  Have a tool to crush them when you inspect next visit.

Personally I'd remove the excluder for now, that would ease any pressure on the size of the brood nest.  Then, after the eighth and ninth frames are drawn in the lower box, you can add the next box with the maneuver described above.

I have not read of checkerboarding to split a hive, couldn't comment on that. 

HTH   :)
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Re: Legitimate reason to checkerboard?
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2016, 10:36:00 am »
OK thanks for the pointers I will follow your reccomendations!

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Re: Legitimate reason to checkerboard?
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2016, 11:09:58 am »
Lee, you are such an asset to this forum! Full of information on all subjects pertaining to beekeeping. Among several others on this forum I listen to every word you say. Thanks for all your help  :eusa_clap:
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Re: Legitimate reason to checkerboard?
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2016, 12:15:34 pm »
I'm going to visit my best friend who lives in Fremont, CA sometime soon.  Will try to get up and see you & your bees when we take a road trip that way Jen.  :)
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