Author Topic: Brood Chamber  (Read 4227 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Tommy

  • Regular Member
  • **
  • Posts: 36
  • Gender: Male
  • Location: Nova Scotia
Brood Chamber
« on: September 24, 2016, 01:53:48 pm »
I was conducting a hive inspection today, and noticed that the bottom box is a lot lighter than the top deep which has lots of honey.  Is this normal, or should both top and bottom be around the same weight?
Thanks.

Offline iddee

  • Administrator
  • Gold Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 6150
  • Thanked: 412 times
  • Gender: Male
  • Location: Sophia, N. C.
Re: Brood Chamber
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2016, 02:01:02 pm »
Bees store honey from the top down, with the brood embedded in the bottom of the honey.
Yes, the empty and brood, thus lighter, comb will be below the heavier honey.
“Listen to the mustn'ts, child. Listen to the don'ts. Listen to the shouldn'ts, the impossibles, the won'ts. Listen to the never haves, then listen close to me... Anything can happen, child. Anything can be.”
― Shel Silverstein

Offline Perry

  • Global Moderator
  • Gold Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 7382
  • Thanked: 390 times
  • Gender: Male
    • Brandt's Bees
  • Location: Annapolis Valley, Nova Scotia
Re: Brood Chamber
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2016, 04:04:40 pm »
Sounds like everything is where it should be. ;)
"It is not the man who has too little, but the man who craves more, that is poor."      
Forum Supporter

Offline Tommy

  • Regular Member
  • **
  • Posts: 36
  • Gender: Male
  • Location: Nova Scotia
Re: Brood Chamber
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2016, 04:12:13 pm »
Perfect!

Offline efmesch

  • Gold Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1695
  • Thanked: 201 times
  • Gender: Male
  • Location: Israel
Re: Brood Chamber
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2016, 04:28:51 pm »
Though it is quite normal, when I find that too many of the bees' activities have moved up (not only stores, but also a lot of young brood) I like to reverse the boxes and put the active one with the queen down below.  That way, if there is any new nectar to come in, the bees will move it to the top. Generally, it is best to have stores above the cluster in the winter so that they can work their wayup as honey stores are consumed.

Offline riverbee

  • Gold Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 8924
  • Thanked: 410 times
  • Gender: Female
  • ***Forum Sponsor***
  • Location: El Paso Twp, Wisconsin
Re: Brood Chamber
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2016, 06:48:19 pm »
tommy, about this time of year (fall) your queen should slow laying down a bit (unless you have italians).  the bees will fill out the 2nd deep with nectar/honey to prepare themselves for winter months. there will some outside frames in the bottom deep of honey, but not like the top deep.

yes, this is normal as all have said.  i don't reverse boxes as ef does, our weather is so much different than efs. the bees fill in the top deep to prohibit the queen from laying in the second deep. (best way i can describe it). i just let the bees do what they need to do to prepare for winter, and like ef said, stores in the top. the bees move up and consume what's available in that second deep. living in nova scotia, i would consider adding a shim on for extra feed for extra insurance.
i keep wild things in a box..........™
if you obey the rules, you miss all the fun.....katherine hepburn
Forum Sponsor

Offline Tommy

  • Regular Member
  • **
  • Posts: 36
  • Gender: Male
  • Location: Nova Scotia
Re: Brood Chamber
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2016, 07:56:39 pm »
I'm going to do that Riverbee. It has an upper entrance in it as well. I was going to use plain white sugar for the extra feed on some newspaper with a hole in the center. What do you use? Fondant, patties, etc?

Offline riverbee

  • Gold Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 8924
  • Thanked: 410 times
  • Gender: Female
  • ***Forum Sponsor***
  • Location: El Paso Twp, Wisconsin
Re: Brood Chamber
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2016, 12:08:57 am »
the mountain camp method? works great from everyone that uses it tommy......'plain white sugar on newspaper'. whatever works for you and your bees!

this year most of my hives are pretty heavy in the 2nd deep already, but i will still add a shim on with feed.won't purchase the patties this year, instead i will whip up some fondant, or a 'sugar brick' method i have used. 
i keep wild things in a box..........™
if you obey the rules, you miss all the fun.....katherine hepburn
Forum Sponsor

Offline Lburou

  • Gold Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 2284
  • Thanked: 315 times
  • Location: DFW area, Texas, USA, growing zone 7a
Re: Brood Chamber
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2016, 08:15:49 am »
If you use the mountain camp method, (I recommend it too), be sure to spritz some water on the newspaper before adding the sugar and then more water as you add the sugar, LIKE THIS.  The purpose for this is to solidify the sugar so it does not appear to be debris to the bees.  If they get the idea its refuse, they have been known to take it out the front door and dump it. If you live in a humid location, the sugar may solidify on its own.  HTH  :)
Lee_Burough

Offline yes2matt

  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 126
  • Thanked: 16 times
  • Gender: Male
Re: Brood Chamber
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2016, 09:06:11 am »
Wow, great tutorial! What do the bees prefer to read with their sugar? Comics? Ads for winterwear?

Offline Lburou

  • Gold Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 2284
  • Thanked: 315 times
  • Location: DFW area, Texas, USA, growing zone 7a
Re: Brood Chamber
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2016, 10:37:54 am »
Wow, great tutorial! What do the bees prefer to read with their sugar? Comics? Ads for winterwear?
I'm careful not to let them see any Union Organizer materials.   :laugh:
Lee_Burough