Looking good

[barry42001]

Thanks Bama!

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[barry42001]

With regards to super size and the weight that applies, thats a matter of personal preference, and physical capacity. Either you can or would prefer not to. Either way this my personal preference, I am physically able to deal with it, and want that ability to continue, once you stop working with the heavier stuff, isn't soon till you can't. That's my hard headed conclusions lol

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[LazyBkpr]

Thats pretty much how I looked at it too Barry, so I am not one to talk by any stretch..   My Doc told me in a fairly explicit manner how wrong I was the last time I went down lifting and turning. By the end of that lecture It was obviously clear that if I didnt start taking precautions the "next" time I went down I may be in a wheel chair permanantly..     No, it didn't stop me, but it sure is on my mind every time I lift something stupid.

   For the record.. I have a deep full of honey I weighed with a friends catfish scale this morning..   103 lbs with bees still in the frames...   I lifted it with TedH the other day, I wont be lifting it again, I'll call in younger help.

[Jen]

Good Evening Barry    From one hard headed beek to another ~ shall we clink our steins
 

[Jen]

Scott- "No, it didn't stop me, but it sure is on my mind every time I lift something stupid.
 
    Awe Geez, now I have two of ya to clink beers with... What's a girl to do 

[pistolpete]

I use the Nuc box trick as well.   when the time comes to move deep supers I empty 5 frames in to a Nuc box (brushing the bees as I go and covering with a towel).   Then I carry the frames to the truck or house and put them in another deep box.    Putting in an escape board under 3 deep supers is quite a work out though and I get help for that when I can.

If I had to do everything all over again, I'd probably go to all mediums.   The only down side is that everyone around these parts runs deeps and it's hard to sell bees in mediums. 

[Jen]

Would it be cost effective to sell deeps, but keep mediums for yourself?

[barry42001]

I use bee escapes to vacate bees from honey super, never takes more than a day unless queen snuck up and laid a frame or two of eggs, which they will never abandon.

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[barry42001]

Jen, you a Coors fan?

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[Jen]

Budweiser

[pistolpete]

Jen: I'm a firm believer in having completely interchangeable equipment.  There are numerous situations when being able to put any frame anywhere is a substantial benefit.   Maybe if I had 20 hives and I ran half of tehm with mediums, that would work, but I only have 3.

[apisbees]

You can stay with the deep frames and go to a 8 frame super and achieve the same thing.
10 frame honey full deep 95 lb.
10 frame honey full medium 65 lb.
8 frame honey full deep 65 lb.
8 frame honey full medium just under 50 lb.

[Jen]

Pete- I like that idea as well and would be doing just that, but hubby has taken an interest in the bees this year and likes the idea of one deep on the bottom and all mediums from there on up. I don't see a lifting problem with that decision because the deep will always remain stationary, I won't have to ever lift it. It's a decent compromise 

[riverbee]

jen, even if you had to move or lift them (deeps), pete's suggestion on using a nuc box or empty deep to move frames works well. 

[apisbees]

Pete- I like that idea as well and would be doing just that, but hubby has taken an interest in the bees this year and likes the idea of one deep on the bottom and all mediums from there on up. I don't see a lifting problem with that decision because the deep will always remain stationary, I won't have to ever lift it. It's a decent compromise 

deeps on the bottom when they contain more brood and pollen than honey are lighter than a medium so they are not to heavy for lifting to clean the bottom boards

[Jen]

Thanks for that Apis  Believe it or not I had concidered that when hubby wanted deeps for the base. Do you know approx how much a deep of brood would weigh?

[apisbees]

Empty deep with drawn frames 25 - 30 lbs.
2 to 3 frames of honey stores 15  - 20 lbs
7 to 8 frames of brood  15 lbs. 
10 frames of bees WEIGHTLESS if the all flap their wings at the same time. (5 Lbs)


I would guess 50 to 65 lbs.
In the spring before they start foraging when the bottom boards need cleaning and with a smaller bee and brood population only around 40 lbs.       

[Jen]

Apis- "10 frames of bees WEIGHTLESS if the all flap their wings at the same time. (5 Lbs)   

     That seems do-able for me beings I'm only going to have 2-3max hives. 

[barry42001]

Particularly if those bees are all flapping their wings at the same time headed in your direction. it's amazing how light things can get.

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[LazyBkpr]

Particularly if those bees are all flapping their wings at the same time headed in your direction. it's amazing how light things can get.

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   Indeed!