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A G3....what happened here #1
« on: December 17, 2013, 07:27:11 pm »
Went out to the hives looking for signs of life, I found it, but not what I wanted.

Can you new bees tell what happened here?

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Re: A G3....what happened here #1
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2013, 07:29:15 pm »
Spider webs.... Brown recluse??
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Re: A G3....what happened here #1
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2013, 07:41:11 pm »
Spiders or wax moth maybe?
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Re: A G3....what happened here #1
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2013, 07:42:48 pm »
At the moment, g3, jaybird is our only new beek.
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Re: A G3....what happened here #1
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2013, 07:52:59 pm »
Well then I am waiting on her!! :?
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Re: A G3....what happened here #1
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2013, 10:07:03 am »
I'll bet when you clean it up you will find hundreds and hundreds of little grooves in the wood.

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Re: A G3....what happened here #1
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2013, 10:25:33 am »
I dont know enough yet to identify what but it looks critters have infested and taken over

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Re: A G3....what happened here #1
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2013, 10:41:24 am »
It is wax moths, mama. They move in when a hive gets weak or dies. They totally destroy the wax and cut grooves into the wood to pupate. They will also infest supers of drawn comb in storage. You can spray the wax with BT, ""Bacillus thuringiensis"" and it will kill the wax moth larva as soon as they hatch. It will protect the comb for years.
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Re: A G3....what happened here #1
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2013, 11:09:28 am »
so is an application of bt some thing you only do at the sing of infestation or can the be applied as a prevenative? It looks like they can do major damage once given the chance.

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Re: A G3....what happened here #1
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2013, 11:22:34 am »
You can spray new foundation before they ever draw it into comb. You can spray empty comb. You can pull combs full of bees out and spray bees and all. It won't hurt the bees. Then the comb is protected for years to come. If you forget which ones you sprayed, you can respray them without damage.
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Re: A G3....what happened here #1
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2013, 11:27:57 am »
ty you make such an investiment in setup its best to give them all the chances they can get.

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Re: A G3....what happened here #1
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2013, 06:30:27 pm »
Caterpillar Killer???

   http://www.amazon.com/Safer-Brand-Cater ... ringiensis

   That stuff??

   I took a REALLY nice comb out of the hives this fall and put it up on the cupboard to show it off...   walked by it about a month later and looked up.. to see it FILLED with webs and tunnels...   IN the light, in the open, but still riddled and ruined....
   That stuff wont hurt the bees??
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Re: A G3....what happened here #1
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2013, 06:45:51 pm »
Agree WG - Bt Aizawai Powder
 is what you want. The one you gave looks to be mixed with pesticide.
There are many different BT's.
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Re: A G3....what happened here #1
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2013, 09:14:29 pm »
Maybe Sundance will find this forum.   ;)
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Re: A G3....what happened here #1
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2013, 09:56:34 pm »
I emailed Sundance. He said he would be here when his new shipment came in.
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Re: A G3....what happened here #1
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2013, 10:08:52 pm »
Amazon does have the right BT,
not going to post here in respect of others who make a living doing this, but do the correct search
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Re: A G3....what happened here #1
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2013, 10:18:11 pm »
Go ahead and post, zulu. Sundance has not held his end up very well. He is just the only source I could be sure of.
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Re: A G3....what happened here #1
« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2013, 10:30:44 pm »
Here it is

http://www.amazon.com/Xentari-XenTari-B ... ds=xentari

NOTE this is a whole pound and will last a hobbiest about 100 years...... I sprayed 15 hives , with average 3 boxes each, and used less than 1/10

also once mixed MUST be used in 24 hours

I would be happy to pkg a small amount for anyone needing it, let me know and we can work out how much.... I can do paypal
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Re: A G3....what happened here #1
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2013, 10:38:05 pm »
I use 1 teaspoon per quart. Mix it a quart at a time and spray about 30 frames.
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Re: A G3....what happened here #1
« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2013, 10:39:25 pm »
Zulu, I have 2in X 3in plastic ziplocks if you get any orders.
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