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Re: My First Cut Out Update
« Reply #40 on: July 20, 2014, 03:10:01 pm »
K, I've made a decision. If I can get a queen for a decent price from Palo Cedro Calif tomorrow, I'll do that. That would be the most expedicious plan to get that hive jump started.

If not, my friend will have to do with jarred bees thru winter, and we will give him a split in the spring.

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« Reply #41 on: July 20, 2014, 03:42:36 pm »
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« Reply #42 on: July 20, 2014, 03:46:07 pm »
Thanks Barry, back atcha :)
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Re: My First Cut Out Update
« Reply #43 on: July 21, 2014, 08:26:39 pm »
I found a bee business in Palo Cedro, CA that would sell me one queen. Hard time finding queens this time of year. Either a 10 queen minimum, or the overnight air expenses due to the heat.

Had a real good talk with a Mr. Robert Wooten, Wooten's Golden Queens, about a 2 hours drive from my town. He comes from a family of queen breeders and beekeepers. He was very honest and polite and a pleasure to visit with. He said that he would be happy to sell me a queen, and yes it is quit feasible for a queen to jump start a colony this time of year up in my territory...  "under the right circumstances".... and there is the rub

The queen will start laying eggs during a time that there is no pollen coming in, and the Star Thistle has no nectar. A recipe for disaster. I knew this from talking to you guys on the forum, just reiterating.

I also learned from him that he has a couple of thousand hives right in our area, like on the outskirts of town and in the small towns close to us. Says it cooler up here than Palo Cedro at 125 or more every day.

Bottom line ~ he suggested what Iddee said in the first place, and what Apis said to me 3 TIMES which was "Listen to the master Jen!"

So, my friend Phill, will have to make a decision on whether to dump the bees and let the brood hatch in my hive. Or, keep stinging until the hive dies out.

Thanks for listening  ;) 8)



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« Reply #44 on: July 21, 2014, 09:22:25 pm »
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Re: My First Cut Out Update
« Reply #45 on: July 22, 2014, 01:18:06 am »
He can stimulate with syrup but is the cost to feed them up to over winter and then it is a crap shoot whether they will survive the winter.
Thinking of some of your other resent posts and the conditions you are finding yourself in now, just thinking. Jen keep in mind that if none of your hives are week and in need of the extra bees, adding bees to a already strong colony could be detrimental to your hive in that you have added to the population that needs to be cared for and fed. The cut out could have heavy mite loads that could negatively effect your hive.
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« Reply #46 on: July 22, 2014, 02:16:42 am »
 Apis- "He can stimulate with syrup but is the cost to feed them up to over winter and then it is a crap shoot whether they will survive the winter.

     Frankly Apis, I'm not sure what kind of beekeeper my friend will make. He's a little disjointed in this world. Although, he is a very caring person. He trims the hooves of horses for a living, and the horses love him to pieces.

     I appreciate your concern for me and my hives this season. It certainly has been a huge arch of learning. Interesting that hubby said the same thing this evening... in that he doesn't want anything to disrupt the care of our hives, regarding bringing the bees and brood to our hives, especially this season where we've worked so hard to help our bees multiply and prosper.

     So, because he wants the hive for bee venom therapy, I think I'll just tell him to use the bees until the hive dies out. Give him some books to read over the winter and then see if he would like a hive in the spring. This feels like a managable and reasonable plan.





     
     
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« Reply #47 on: July 22, 2014, 02:28:53 am »
tell him to poor the syrup to them and let them build out some comb it will give the bees he gets next spring a boost if he has more drawn comb.
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Re: My First Cut Out Update
« Reply #48 on: July 22, 2014, 02:39:18 am »
Quote from: Jen on July 21, 2014, 08:26:39 pm
I also learned from him that he has a couple of thousand hives right in our area, like on the outskirts of town and in the small towns close to us. Says it cooler up here than Palo Cedro at 125 or more every day.
Are they with in 4 miles of your place and hives? If so they may \ ARE competing with your bees for available forage. If they are with in 2 miles, Is he open feeding? The red in the honey frames could be the dye used in the oxytetracycline. Just some thoughts to consider. could explain a few things.
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Re: My First Cut Out Update
« Reply #49 on: July 22, 2014, 12:06:31 pm »
Apis- "Are they with in 4 miles of your place and hives? If so they may \ ARE competing with your bees for available forage. If they are with in 2 miles, Is he open feeding? The red in the honey frames could be the dye used in the oxytetracycline. Just some thoughts to consider. could explain a few things.

    I believe the closest location of one of his yard is about 10 miles, so I'm safe there ~

     What is oxytetracycline?  :o
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Re: My First Cut Out Update
« Reply #50 on: July 22, 2014, 12:19:58 pm »
Terramycin (Oxytetracycline)
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Re: My First Cut Out Update
« Reply #51 on: July 22, 2014, 12:49:56 pm »
Oh! okay I know what that is, used some of that on my hive 3 years ago when I found American Foul Brood, unfortunately hive was too far gone, had to burn that one  :'(
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