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I've been feeding my 4 hives since they swarmed in March-April, 5 months now. Main goal was to get all four hives completely pulled. Mission Accomplished! There is a flo going on right now, I believe it's Tar Weed. Should I continue to feed them thru the rest of the season because of our drought?
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Re: Feeding To Build Wax Has Been Accomplished ~ Should I Continue?
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2014, 10:21:15 pm »
It depends on their stores. When they have enough stored to last until the spring flow, quit feeding.
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Re: Feeding To Build Wax Has Been Accomplished ~ Should I Continue?
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2014, 10:30:16 pm »
So enough stores would be a deep and medium full of Jen's Ruby Honey...?  I think I have two hives that are there
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Re: Feeding To Build Wax Has Been Accomplished ~ Should I Continue?
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2014, 10:49:51 pm »
I would keep feeding as IDDEE said. If you have a flow on most likely they will not take the feed.
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Re: Feeding To Build Wax Has Been Accomplished ~ Should I Continue?
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2014, 10:58:38 pm »
Jen,  did you use a 1:1 ratio to build the comb?  And will you increase the ratio to get them to store it as honey?

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Re: Feeding To Build Wax Has Been Accomplished ~ Should I Continue?
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2014, 11:11:10 pm »
For the most part I used 1:1 with a 5 hole lid to get a good jump on wax pulling. Then about a month ago I switched to 1:1 with 3 holes to help sustain them thru the drought. Whether or not we had a flow, the bees have taken a pint a day all season.
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Re: Feeding To Build Wax Has Been Accomplished ~ Should I Continue?
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2014, 11:48:20 pm »
jen, a deep and a medium if that's what you need in your area.  you have been in a great dearth.  like iddee said about 'enough stores to last them through spring'.  you may find yourself in a situation where you will have to feed them until you can no longer do so, and place extra 'insurance' on the hive to sustain them and get them through until your spring, and at some point you may need to switch to 2:1 syrup. 
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« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2014, 11:49:41 pm »
Hi Riv  :)  What would be the purpose of 2:1 syrup, curious
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Re: Feeding To Build Wax Has Been Accomplished ~ Should I Continue?
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2014, 12:48:46 am »
2/1 is thicker, easier for the bees to dehydrate and cap for winter stores.
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Re: Feeding To Build Wax Has Been Accomplished ~ Should I Continue?
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2014, 08:39:55 am »
1:1 syrup is more likely to get the queen to kick in and start laying brood.  It is closer to simulating a natural nectar flow.  2:1 helps the bees build stores with less work.
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Re: Feeding To Build Wax Has Been Accomplished ~ Should I Continue?
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2014, 09:36:25 am »
Jen, Honey stores for winter. Or in a better term the hive configuration and the amount of stored honey we want in the hive by the time the weather turns cold and the bees stop bringing in nectar or taking syrup.
Most of us have about 2 months to get to this point from now the middle of August. What happens between now and when the hives are to go into winter depends on late summer and the fall flows. If the colony is not going to reach the desired weight for winter, feeding becomes necessary. 
I would think you would like your winter hive configuration either 2 deeps, a deep and a medium, or 3 mediums. The winter stores you ideally want need to be enough stores to get the colony from the end of the fall flow to the spring pollen and nectar flows. Some of this time can be supplemented with the feeding of sugar syrups so the critical stores are the amount of honey needed between when the bees quite taking syrup and when the weather breaks so syrup can be fed in the spring.
This amount of time will change depending on where you live. So the winter  honey requirement will be different depending on where you live. In Northern California the critical winter stores requirement will be 30 to 40 lb's which is about 1 medium super of stores.
Now that we have a target winter stores we can feed or let the fall flow be packed in the upper brood super till our winter weight is reached. For you Jen because of the uncertainty of a fall flow I would feed 1:1 syrup to the middle of September unless a flow starts and then stop feeding to stimulate the bees in raising of winter bees. After mid September I would switch to 2:1 syrup to encourage the bees to store and ripen the syrup for winter stores until the desired winter stores in the hives is reached.
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