Author Topic: First Attempt At Draining Honeycomb (Read 10314 times)

riverbee · « **Reply #20 on:** September 24, 2014, 01:30:42 am »

jen,
a learning curve for you, with the oven. my thought is the oven temp even with the door open would have been too hot, 'destroyed' the properties of the honey, (overheating honey makes it darker also) not to mention the melting of the drawn comb as you experienced, and maybe some melted wax in your honey? bummer, but i would still consume it.......

i recently had two frames of honey, one a deep frame i had saved to feed back to the bees, and one, a medium frame. the frames on these were broken. the deep frame maybe could have been repaired, but the age of the comb made me decide to not try and fix it. the medium frame, beeswax foundation, and the frame on the side was split from the top to the bottom, not going to fix this. i wanted to salvage the wax, and i wanted to salvage the honey in them to feed back to the bees. i pulled out my uncapping tub, but your setup would work. i placed both of these frames in it upside down lid on. took it to the garage, (unheated) placed the tub on a workbench with halogen lighting directly above. i fired up a coleman propane tent heater safe for indoor use and heated the space to about 90 degrees +. the honey ran out in less than a day.

a space heater would work, and i do have one, and have used it for the same purpose, but the little propane tanks are cheaper than electric space heaters.........

ps i have done this a multitude of times to salvage a frame of honey ......

and used a space heater in a small room of my home.....works like a charm

pistolpete · « **Reply #21 on:** September 24, 2014, 10:50:00 am »

Jen: I tried heating them a couple of ways. Some honeys are just low viscosity. I eventually did crush and strain.

barry42001 · « **Reply #22 on:** September 24, 2014, 11:14:43 am »

Actually using a hair blow dryer on medium settings may work well if time consuming...but you could watch over the operation to prevent damage to comb.

Jen · « **Reply #23 on:** September 24, 2014, 02:52:35 pm »

Pete- "Jen: I tried heating them a couple of ways. Some honeys are just low viscosity. I eventually did crush and strain.

I see. And yah we have a local honey here, I think wildflower, where you can turn the jar upside down and it takes awhile to get moving, like molasses.

Jen · « **Reply #24 on:** September 26, 2014, 06:06:49 pm »

This last week I was slowly filling jars with honey.. from my bucket with spigot.. with the honey that I got off of the frame that I roasted in the oven (snark). I had to push everything aside for a couple of days to cook for deer camp. Hunters are gone for a week so I can get back to one of my projects... to finish filling a couple more jars. I grab the bucket and set it in the sink, setting up a platform for this bucket with a trouble light under it. Guess what I found submerged in the honey...

The checkbook

barry42001 · « **Reply #25 on:** September 26, 2014, 07:45:45 pm »

Flavoring?

iddee · « **Reply #26 on:** September 26, 2014, 09:10:46 pm »

No, Barry, it was to keep hubby from taking it deer hunting.

barry42001 · « **Reply #27 on:** September 26, 2014, 09:36:10 pm »

apisbees · « **Reply #28 on:** September 27, 2014, 05:50:37 pm »

If the moisture content of the honey is is high 17. + it will flow out a bit but not completely. If the moisture content is less than 16 % very little will flow out. A honey roller will break the suction and will allow the honey to flow more readily but it also damages the combs.
If heat and drip worked. There would be not be such a need for extractors as a hobbyist could cut the capping's, place the frames back into the super and place it in a warming Cabinet upside down over a catch tub.

Jen · « **Reply #29 on:** September 27, 2014, 06:24:02 pm »

So, I googled cabinet, and warming cabinet, and all's I get is grapes and sauvignon....

apisbees · « **Reply #30 on:** September 27, 2014, 06:49:58 pm »

Dam auto complete on this dam I Pad. Warming cabinet. Sorry Jen.

Jen · « **Reply #31 on:** September 27, 2014, 07:10:12 pm »

You're too funny Apis ...

iddee · « **Reply #32 on:** September 27, 2014, 07:24:53 pm »

Looks correct to me...............

Jen · « **Reply #33 on:** September 27, 2014, 08:54:11 pm »

Thanks Iddee............

Jen · « **Reply #34 on:** September 27, 2014, 08:54:50 pm »

Apis... what's your idea of a warming cabinet?

riverbee · « **Reply #35 on:** September 27, 2014, 10:04:53 pm »

"I grab the bucket and set it in the sink, setting up a platform for this bucket with a trouble light under it. Guess what I found submerged in the honey...

The checkbook "

................

aw just wipe the checkbook off jen......the honey is still good.......
not asking how it got there........

Jen · « **Reply #36 on:** September 27, 2014, 10:13:06 pm »

Snark! OH! The honey will Not be waisted I can gaurantee you that, took 4 years to get it

Can't blame my 2 year old grandson on this one...

riverbee · « **Reply #37 on:** September 28, 2014, 12:18:43 am »

wait til 'someone' tips over and spills a 5 gallon bucket of honey all over the kitchen floor........

or better yet, wait til 'someone' opens the spigot on a strained 5 gallon bucket of honey sitting on a counter top ready to pour, and it runs out onto your kitchen floor........
pretty much all of it........
..............

serious language comes out.....(non-disney type)

grandkids you gotta love 'em.........and husbands too..........

lazy shooter · « **Reply #38 on:** September 29, 2014, 09:08:22 am »

My wife is a brilliant person complete with Ph.D from Texas A&M is statistics, but she has the least common sense about mechanical and chemical things of almost anyone. She made sweet pickles in a crock with a spigot on it. The spigot leaked and called and told me there was a puddle of pickle juice on the floor. I was driving and only about 20 minutes from home and told her I would take care of it. She then decided to clean up her mess and the entire kitchen floor. So she mopped the entire kitchen floor and spread the sweet pickle juice over it. When I arrived the floor was sticky so I mopped it and it was still sticky. So I mopped and dried and mopped and dried and ……………………mopped and dried. It's instances like this that require one to remember the vow to love until death do you part.

I can imagine honey being just as difficult to remove from a floor. Just remember to clean the puddle only.

Jen · « **Reply #39 on:** September 29, 2014, 06:31:49 pm »

Good story Lazy. I worked at a natural health food store back in the day, and a 50 gallon tub of honey fell to the carpeted floor and oozed quickly, it flowed like liquid lava. It was an awful mess to clean up. Once they got the bulk scooped up they cut that part of the carpet out and took it to the land fill. That was a 300.00 lost investment, not to mention the replacement of the carpet.