Author Topic: Oxalic Acid Discussion (Read 152344 times)

iddee · « **Reply #140 on:** August 14, 2016, 02:04:47 pm »

Lazy, would you post a link or two to where Obama did this. After 8 years, it would do my heart good to see even one thing he did right.

LazyBkpr · « **Reply #141 on:** August 14, 2016, 07:38:13 pm »

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/whats-all-the-obama-buzz-about-bees/2015/05/18/5ebd1580-fd6a-11e4-805c-c3f407e5a9e9_story.html

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2015/05/150519-pollinators-health-honeybees-obama-animals-science/

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/22/politics/honey-bees-protection/

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/05/19/407955318/plan-bee-white-house-unveils-strategy-to-protect-pollinators

http://www.wsj.com/articles/obama-task-force-lays-out-plan-to-save-honeybees-1432051769

I do not recall the exact address I read about Obama pushing the Oxalic Acid approval... I read about it in more than one place at the time. I was watching and reading everything I could while that was going on hoping for approval... I just did not count on Brushy Mountain getting a corner on the market, and then taking advantage of it.
Understand, that I stand AGAINST almost everything Obama stood for, but I do give him credit for setting up the task force to promote honey bee health.. whether they will actually make a difference?? Who knows, but it was one of the few things I did agree with.

iddee · « **Reply #142 on:** August 14, 2016, 08:40:46 pm »

""but I do give him credit for setting up the task force to promote honey bee health.. whether they will actually make a difference""

Task force, yes. Oxalic acid, ??.. I seen nothing about it in any of the links, but I couldn't read the last one without joining, so don't know what it said.

Now, in 2 years, has the task force done anything other than spend 50 million dollars of our tax money? I'm thinking Brushy did some ACTUAL GOOD without spending near that.

LazyBkpr · « **Reply #143 on:** August 14, 2016, 11:28:32 pm »

Do you have links that state what Brushy Mt did? What part they played in all of this? It is their part that I am interested in the most, and would like to KNOW!!

iddee · « **Reply #144 on:** August 15, 2016, 06:29:49 am »

Don Hopkins, our chief state bee inspector, told about it at a local club meeting. He can give you the details.

(919) 218-3310
Don.Hopkins@ncagr.gov

LazyBkpr · « **Reply #145 on:** August 15, 2016, 11:15:17 am »

Thank you, will send him a mail!

LazyBkpr · « **Reply #146 on:** August 16, 2016, 04:01:17 pm »

So... in speaking with Brushy Mountain, it appears that THEY are the ones who paid the STATE fees and worked with the EPA and USDA on the state levels, while Obama waved the "Federal" fees and pushed approval on the Federal level...
It is all becoming clearer and more understandable.. Iddee was right again. You would think I would learn not to argue with him... Its just.. so much fun!
I have asked for any documentation of their efforts that I can link to, so that when someone else asks me this question I can simply refer them.

So in effect, Brushy Mountain has quite a lot of LOSS to make up for after their efforts and paying all of the fees on OUR behalf, to make OA Legal on the STATE level... That I can accept, and WILL be buying OA from them now that I understand.

iddee · « **Reply #147 on:** August 16, 2016, 05:20:47 pm »

You quit arguing with me and I'll fire you. This forum wouldn't have half the info on it that it has now if we didn't argue.

This thread is a good example.

LazyBkpr · « **Reply #148 on:** August 16, 2016, 05:59:33 pm »

Quote from: iddee on August 16, 2016, 05:20:47 pm

You quit arguing with me and I'll fire you. This forum wouldn't have half the info on it that it has now if we didn't argue.

This thread is a good example.

Fire me!!?? I thought we were supposed to be talking about my annual RAISE!!

efmesch · « **Reply #149 on:** August 17, 2016, 12:30:28 am »

I think that doubling your present salary should be acceptable.

Lburou · « **Reply #150 on:** August 17, 2016, 01:38:48 pm »

Quote from: iddee on August 14, 2016, 02:04:47 pm

Lazy, would you post a link or two to where Obama did this. After 8 years, it would do my heart good to see even one thing he did right.

Iddee, I believe it fits into The Obama's executive order (EO) in favor of saving all pollinators -I might have that impression after reading something relating to the fast track EPA paperwork. I disagree with his policies, but acknowledge his EO paved the way for eliminating red tape, leading to the speedy approval of oxalic acid for varroa Tx. Well done to all involved.

P.S. I won't be buying OA from Brushy Mountain, but I plan to find other ways to support them for their part in this big win for the bees.

LazyBkpr · « **Reply #151 on:** August 17, 2016, 02:50:24 pm »

Quote from: efmesch on August 17, 2016, 12:30:28 am

I think that doubling your present salary should be acceptable.

Thank you for the vote of support Ef!!! Need all the help I can get!

iddee · « **Reply #152 on:** August 17, 2016, 03:55:35 pm »

EF, I have doubled his salary every Jan. since I started the forum. I just can't make him happy. :\'(

CBT · « **Reply #153 on:** August 17, 2016, 05:50:40 pm »

You can throw that salary out in the yard and the dog won't eat it

LazyBkpr · « **Reply #154 on:** August 18, 2016, 03:07:36 am »

LOL MY dog might but he'd still be hungry.

Wandering Man · « **Reply #155 on:** September 13, 2016, 08:38:12 am »

How do you handle treating more than one hive with a hot vaporizer? Do you wait for it to cool down? Do you douse it in water to cool it? Do you just add a bit more OA it cram it into the next hive before it vaporizes the OA?

My vaporizer seems to stay hot for a really long time after I've unhooked it from the battery.

Bakersdozen · « **Reply #156 on:** September 13, 2016, 08:43:12 am »

Have a bucket of water handy to submerge the end of your vaporizer in. If you add more OA and keep going, you might breath some of it in and you won't know exactly how much the bees received. You could cook some of your bees too!

Nugget Shooter · « **Reply #157 on:** September 13, 2016, 10:02:40 am »

Quote from: Bakersdozen on September 13, 2016, 08:43:12 am

Have a bucket of water handy to submerge the end of your vaporizer in. If you add more OA and keep going, you might breath some of it in and you won't know exactly how much the bees received. You could cook some of your bees too!

I do the same, clean and cool before each use....

CBT · « **Reply #158 on:** September 13, 2016, 11:33:05 am »

We have made trouble dipping in water. Seems if yours uses a glow plug the quick cooling may let moisture past the threads and into the tip end. When you put power back on the glow plug ruptures. We have some issues with stainless steel glow plug and aluminum housing. Need to loosen and retighten for good connection now and then.

Nugget Shooter · « **Reply #159 on:** September 14, 2016, 10:37:13 am »

Good tip.....