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Winter Check 2014 ~ How Are Your Bees?
« on: December 22, 2014, 05:48:04 pm »
there are scattered posts here on how our bees are doing this winter.  would like to sort of 'centralize' and have input from everyone on how your bees are wintering. 

for me, i just have one hive left, the last one standing of 10 since developing my allergy and literally has gone 'untouched' until late summer 2014.  i don't want to lose this queen or this hive. would like to have the genetics for nucs in the spring. she's doing well so far.  i was a little concerned going into winter months, the hive weight and frames weren't exactly what i would like to see even after feeding them back capped/uncapped honey frames.  i placed a shim on before the weather became really cold in october, and did place a winter feed patty on when i wrapped around thanksgiving. unusual for me. i will put a shim in, but most of the time i don't find it necessary to feed until spring.  have had a chance to lift the outer cover and check, added another patty just recently.

our winter........subzero temps in october into november, was just crazy. late november now into december unseasonably warmer, with very little snow.  we usually get some really good snow falls, but none to speak of. days where it hit 50 degrees in early december! and the bees were flying.
weather lately, nothing but rain and sleet, mixed with some flurries. no snow on the ground here to speak of now, just patches and temps in the 30's.
every year the river freezes over in places, i can drive the 4 wheeler across........not this year!

i hope to build back up. and i hope this hive makes it. weight is a little lighter than i would expect for december, but i think she's still doing alright.  last time i shoved a patty in, appeared to me to be a pretty good sized cluster just looking from the top and the sound in the hive.
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Re: Winter Check 2014 ~ How Are Your Bees?
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2014, 06:31:18 pm »
Crazy weather here as well.   Had snow in November but its long gone. Mostly a muddy mess out there now. Went through hives Saturday. A few of them well into the sugar cakes I put on them, so I will need to be out in the next few days with more sugar cakes..   The benefit has been that the bees have had cleansing flights, and there are no issues with reaching what reserves they have.
   So far, so good, but its going to be a long three months from here.
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Re: Winter Check 2014 ~ How Are Your Bees?
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2014, 06:48:38 pm »
" So far, so good, but its going to be a long three months from here."

i would agree scott......very long 3 months for us........watchin, waitin, checkin..... :yes: 
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Re: Winter Check 2014 ~ How Are Your Bees?
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2014, 06:59:34 pm »
My bees are still alive yet. A very mild winter so far, about 60 inches of snow. I know what the next 4 months will bring.  I have a long way to go before I close the book on this winter.

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Re: Winter Check 2014 ~ How Are Your Bees?
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2014, 07:54:45 pm »
Checked all my hives and heard bees alive in all of them. Some are lighter than I would have expected, no doubt due to the milder than normal fall and winter. Except for a few that started out light, I normally don't put fondant on till January if I see any others going through stores. I'll be checking a lot earlier than normal I'm afraid.
Still, a block (50 lbs.) @ $50 goes a long way to saving light colonies, and it's a lot cheaper than buying nucs (for those that have to).
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Re: Winter Check 2014 ~ How Are Your Bees?
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2014, 11:05:37 pm »
I checked 9 NUCs today and put a hopguard strip in each one.  Only two of the nine had two to four inch patches of capped brood, three or four with just eggs, the remainder with no brood at all -if you are new to beekeeping, this is an almost ideal condition for mite treatments, last week might have been better).  They all have food now, but a couple will need supplemental feed soon. 

Will be checking The mature hives as the mood comes this week.  I formed sugar/apple cider vinegar/electrolytes/Honeybee healthy into empty frames and put them in a couple light hives and I see sugar granules at the entrance of one of them.  Put that mix in frame feeders and some of the hives are taking it that way (used the frame feeder as an experiment, we have warm weather periodically so they can move in there when they want to, reserves are not critical at this point).

Today, in my view, is the beginning of the new bee season!!  WooHoo!   :)

Thanks for asking rb......I'm rooting for your bees!  :)

P.S.  It was around 70 degrees F here today, so it was okay to tear the hives down for today's inspection.
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Re: Winter Check 2014 ~ How Are Your Bees?
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2014, 11:22:29 pm »
Mine are alive, Just feeding sugar/cream of tartar bricks for another week or 2. Mine were foraging for water today. wish I'd gotten something under my 2 that don't have sticky's in them. maybe I can slip something under them tomorrow, not as tight a seal as a sticky, some ventilation but not as wide open as they are.

Didn't know it was safe to treat for mites when the hives are closed up for winter. Learn something new every day

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Re: Winter Check 2014 ~ How Are Your Bees?
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2014, 11:38:37 pm »
All  mine alive and well so far. I did put in some fondant yesterday in the lightest hives.

I did a OAV treatment on every hive EXCEPT the Honeysuckle Hives couple weeks ago. I want to see what they (Honeysuckle Hives)do without treatment.

I have been seeing little yellow flowers blooming over last few weeks. Don't know what they are, but December?

I'm pretty sure I can get every through the next 8 to 10 weeks though.

Cheers and Merry Christmas to everybody. Hope all your bees make it through.

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Re: Winter Check 2014 ~ How Are Your Bees?
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2014, 02:40:53 am »
I don't usually check my hives at all from the end of October until late in February.  You all have me thinking, perhaps I should revise this strategy.
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Re: Winter Check 2014 ~ How Are Your Bees?
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2014, 02:51:24 am »
Yankee- "I did a OAV treatment on every hive EXCEPT the Honeysuckle Hives couple weeks ago. I want to see what they (Honeysuckle Hives)do without treatment.

     I think this is a scary but brilliant idea Yankee... seems they haven't been treated for.. I dunno? how many years?
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Re: Winter Check 2014 ~ How Are Your Bees?
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2014, 08:32:29 am »
i have 6 left and lost 2. just checked the other 3 here at my house for sugar bricks and they barley have touched it. the other 3 are doing great. mild winter here also. so all in all think mine will make it this winter and i'm very happy about that.

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Re: Winter Check 2014 ~ How Are Your Bees?
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2014, 09:58:38 am »
so, from what i am reading, most of us are doing alright with minimal loss so far.  losses usually come for me anywhere between january and even as late as march. seems everyone has feed on, some of us with lighter hives than expected.

"Thanks for asking rb......I'm rooting for your bees!  :)"

thanks lee i appreciate your comment.  also yankee, this hive has never been treated for mites, this was a divide from another about 4 years ago i think, and has never been requeened either.  not certain this is the original queen (i don't mark queens), and most likely not. so whatever mutt queen is in there has done well.  very strong hive.

question pete, you said you don't check but do you heft your hives at all to gauge the weight?

perry, sure is a sweet sound to all of us when we can hear them.......... :yes:
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Re: Winter Check 2014 ~ How Are Your Bees?
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2014, 10:02:19 am »
Those hives havn't even been seen by human eyes in probably 10 yrs.  I want to check their mite loads in spring, I am thinking they may know how to handle them.

I am not doing anything with this yard but splitting it this spring. Not taking any other hives out there. I am going to split it just with what is out there. The lady that owns the property told me she see multiple swarms every spring. Well this spring she wont see any cause they will be in boxes..






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Re: Winter Check 2014 ~ How Are Your Bees?
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2014, 11:52:58 am »
I don't usually check my hives at all from the end of October until late in February.  You all have me thinking, perhaps I should revise this strategy.

   PPete;
   I dont usually check my hives from the end of November to late February, provided they are well set up for the winter..  I place the sugar on them WHEN they are winterized and FULL (100+ lbs of honey) and that gives me the ability to walk away for that length of time...
   This year is very different..  I harvested honey, and watched them begin to refill their stores. Some began working on more supers..  They were ALL in excellent shape, so I walked away and let them be...  I checked again in September, to find that they had not only stopped bringing in the groceries, but had also USED what they had stored..  At that time I LOST one NUC to starvation...  Within minutes I had the syrup on..  They USED the syrup to feed the brood and raise the winter bees..   I poured the syrup to them through October and even into November.  I mixed it by the 5 gallon bucket full and kept a minimum of a gallon on all the hives. The nucs had a half a gallon on them. By November they had STARTED to store the syrup, some even had a little of it capped.. but it was mostly too late to keep feeding..   So they were winterized with what little they had stored AND the sugar cakes on top...    Which means. I HAVE to check them at least once a month to replenish the sugar.

   If your hives are well set with reserves your situation differs than mine and you shouldn't have to check like I do.
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Re: Winter Check 2014 ~ How Are Your Bees?
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2014, 12:32:30 pm »
My hives don't have the winter feed on yet. Doing that this week. Going to use Ray's posted fondant with my own honey, I have just enough of my own honey left to make about 10 pie plates. We have been running an average consistent temp of 43 so far, so I haven't been pacing in front of the hives too much this first part of winter.

The temps are nice enough that my bees get to do this about once a week, brings great joy to see them out and about, and when the sun is on their backs they are zooooming everywhere  :)


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Re: Winter Check 2014 ~ How Are Your Bees?
« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2014, 12:49:13 pm »
Lazy.
How are they holding up so far.?

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Re: Winter Check 2014 ~ How Are Your Bees?
« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2014, 07:12:34 pm »
So far so good..  Still have bees in a little single medium nuc I didnt expect to make it this far.  I have sugar cakes dehydrating as I type..   Quite a few to make up. Some of the hives are nearly through their first cake, some havent touched them yet..   Like I said earlier, its going to be a long uncomfortable winter, but I intend to do my best to have as many bees alive in spring as I can.
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Re: Winter Check 2014 ~ How Are Your Bees?
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2015, 11:38:24 pm »
My big hive that wasn't taking feed because they had honey appears to have died out.  It is 10:35 pm here, guess I'll go pull the hive into the garage, the robbers from the others should have gone home.  May be a surprise if the queen and any workers are actually in it but it looked totally empty this morning. I almost closed it off.  Should have.  But wasn't 100% sure the queen and a few bees were not there. This was my favorite golden queen. The hive was very crowded and she surprised me by being on a frame once, I may have rolled her during that last inspection.  Have to work in the morning. need to move the box while the other hives sleep.

They were alive December 22nd and came up to see when I lifted the lid.

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Re: Winter Check 2014 ~ How Are Your Bees?
« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2015, 11:47:50 am »
The weather and my work schedule finally synched where I could go check my country bees.  I have 3 colonies plus my niece's colony that I mentor.  Everyone was flying and I added fondant to two, mountain camp method to one (out of fondant) and one colony hadn't touched the emergency fondant I had placed in there back in October.  I was as unobtrusive as possible.  I put feed and BWeaver's Small Hive Beetle sheets, that infidel educated me on, and closed them up. 

I did note that a colony that has been defensive in the past, was heavily populated with bees.  Very docile, but looking like a split will happen in the spring, for sure. 

Today's weather should have the bees flying again.  It should be warm enough to make an observation of the back yard hives, but not warm enough to open.  Even seeing them fly in winter is exciting.

So, to sum it up, I personally started the winter with 6 hives and currently have 5.  I lost the one hive back in the severe November cold snap.  I have written about this at http://www.worldwidebeekeeping.com/forum/index.php/topic,3039.0.html.  I started the 2014 bee year with two colonies and grew to six.  It was very educational.  Because of the expansion, I learned more about beekeeping that ever before.