foulbrood

[Marty68]

so i come home for work and bee's are out bringing in pollen. i go and take a 30 min nap. comeback outside and happen to look over at the hive and see more movement out of one of my nuc boxes. upon further inspection i noticed a big circle of bee's on the insulation. then i noticed that they had made a new queen and she was outside the box. i was stumped. she was small and i said wth is she doing out. and that's not the queen that i overwintered. i made a call to another beek, he said it could be a daughter. i was told to pop the top and look for eggs in a cpl frames not to do to much if there was another queen inside. nothing but foul brood is what i seen. 8 frames of foul brood and about 1 1/2 handful of bees left. i was so disappointed with what i had seen. this whole time my daughter was holding the queen while l took out all the bad frames and put in fresh new ones and a cpl frames of honey. it's now a single nuc and hoping it survives until mating season. i'm feeding it 1/1 sugar with honey b healthy. today i'm getting some tetramyacin, sorry for the spelling, and putting it on the frames and hope that it makes it. i will post pics later tonight when i get home. any suggestions on this and how to prevent this in the future.

[Marty68]

[Perry]

Marty, are you sure it American Foulbrood and not European? What led you to conclude this?
Have you tried the rope test to confirm your suspicions? Also, there are strains of AFB that are now resistant to Terramycin and Oxytet, you may have to try Tylan.
Got any pics of the frames?

[Perry]

European and American Foulbrood are very similar, but can be distinguished with this relatively easy method. If it ropes out on a toothpick it's likely AFB.
Not every hive will display obvious signs of illness either, these pics are of some I found that were in an apparently healthy looking hive!







These next pics came from a hive with obvious signs of trouble.

[Marty68]

i have them on my phone and i have to transfer them tonight. all the capped brood that was on the frames had holes on the tops of them. and not sure what type of foul brood it is. how can i tell

[Marty68]

Perry the second set of pics is what I have

[Yankee11]

European foul brood- the larva die before being capped. If its european you have leave hive queenless and let them clean out all cells. I had this and it worked.
American fb- the larva fail after being capped and is much more serious. I think most times equipment needs to be destroyed. But i dont know that for sure.

[riverbee]

marty,
take a look at this field guide, when you download the pdf file, do a search for 'foulbrood'.

A Field Guide To Honey Bees and Their Maladies

[Jen]

Hi Marty, I have the field guide book as well, it's a terrific resource for diseases and maladies of bees, short concise explainations. PDF or the book would be great to have on hand.

[Marty68]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10205335111510997&set=a.4490620617325.2177577.1044515473&type=1
it efb from what i gather. nothing in cells, just capped with a pinhole on top. usually says it over winters in the hive and goes away with the flow. not gonna take a chance, removed it all and starting fresh. hopefully pic come through

[Perry]

Not working Marty. If you can get a close look, check for scale in the bottom of the cells. By bottom, I mean the bottom of the cells when you look at them from the sides, not the actual bottom or deepest point of the cell.
There is nothing under the cappings? Nothing you could stir or pull out with a toothpick?

[riverbee]

like perry said marty, the link is not working.

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