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I hate doctors
« on: February 18, 2015, 10:08:13 am »
But my kid had low thyroid at age 31 and insisted it must have come from somewhere and since she was not found under a cabbage mom got sent to the doctor.

I have a thyroid sonogram today. apparently I have hashimoto.thyroiditis and some kind of autoimmune action or that is some kind of auto immune problem

I think maybe the thyroid is why my blood sugar was high.  My cholesterol is low but the balance is wrong hdl/ldl.

I have lived on a  diet for my entire life, no dairy, no candy no sweets etc and they have put me on a tighter one, which I may or may not respect because frankly I don't think good numbers are worth starving for.  But I am now off beef.

and I am sure the mercury in fish is going to kill me. YUCK   And I nearly fell over when she told me gluten could contribute to the auto immune stuff.  I can't eat bread because there is milk in it, I don't eat pasta because I gained 12 lbs when I quit smoking 3 years ago and it hasn't left yet, I barely eat rice which has no gluten at all.

anyone else been handed a ridiculous diet lately?

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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2015, 11:27:35 am »
gyspi,
some endocrinologists say it is genetic, or hereditary. i am familiar with hashimotos and the opposite, graves disease. they are autoimmune illnesses. the problem is really not with the thyroid, the problem lies in your immune system and rather than someone figuring out how to fix the immune system they treat the thyroid to fool the immune system into thinking the thyroid is functioning properly so the immune system doesn't try to attack it.  ;D

with each has drawbacks, graves disease is treated with radiation, which causes other problems. with both treatment is with synthetic thyroid medications.

LOL, not so sure about the strict diet.......... :D
about 12 years ago or more, i decided to change my own eating habits and diet, and maintain a regular exercise routine (always did this anyway) no junk food, pizza, chips, mcdonalds, etc......fresh fruits and vegatables, a variety of fish and meats, limit pasta, breads, etc. , sugar and sweets.
going into the best years of my life, i don't need to add any more fat cells that are going to cause health problems or weight gain i can't get off..... :D

are they placing you on medication?
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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2015, 11:56:03 am »
I'm on Armour thyroid.  Started at 15 mg expect it to go up.  I eat healthy. I use sugar or honey in my tea, which is why the diet stuff really irritated me. don't drink sodas, maybe a cup of coffee every other day

 I don't drink, smoke, eat chips candy pizza nothing, with food allergies I cook so I know what is in my food. I don't eat wheat so no gluten. I climb waterfalls garden walk and train dogs, bicycle and barely watch any tv. no couch potato.  I eat enough to support my activity level, and drop lunch in winter when I'm less active, have a handful of dry oatmeal sometimes.

going to get the sonogram of the thyroid - getting this nonsense over with.  I don't want golden years. At 80 everyone in my family has alzheimers or dementia.  no gold in those numbers

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Re: I hate doctors
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2015, 01:13:53 pm »
anyone else been handed a ridiculous diet lately?

It could always be worse.

Take my wife.  Please!  (no no no, I'm just kidding!   ;D  )

None of the following:   :o

Apples
Cherries
Nuts
Wheat or anything with gluten
Peanuts
Sulfites
Synthetic Ascorbic Acid
Tylenol
Aspirin
NSIDs

(I know I've probably forgotten a few things)

and of course bee stings

That kind of narrows down the diet/medicines
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Re: I hate doctors
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2015, 01:48:49 pm »
Wow! That is a lot of limitation Slow, and those are good for you foods, apples, cherries, and nuts are super good for you. But I don't live in her body so what do I know?  :D :D
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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2015, 03:39:23 pm »
Well I survived the sonogram.  couple of nodules on thyroid but basically normal looking.  and my doctor has a patented B6 formula for those of us with a genetic inability to process folate.  I have a 30% reduction in my ability to process B6 and convert it to methylfolate which my body can use.  But funny thing I've always taken Stresstabs vitamins with a LOT of B6 in them, because I felt better when I took them.  So my pharmacy calls and for $30.44 (at costco) my doctor has ordered in her chosen methylfolate supplement (which btw I can pick up on Amazon for about $6 and from Swanson for about $8.)  I picked up the scrip for kicks and giggles and to read the label.

One of my daughters is pregnant. SHE may have trouble converting folate to methylfolate.

As far as the restrictions, I am sticking with my normal diet. I do not have celiac disease, I consume very little gluten anyway, the oils in my house are olive oil and coconut oil, I don't eat dairy anyway so no big change, I am dumping beef as much for wild horse preservation as for anything my doctor has to say, and I also am allergic to NSAIDS and sulfa antibiotics. As far as the blood sugar reducing pill, I took it per instructions first day and it made me sick. If I were diabetic cuts and scratches would not heal, and I am constantly scratched by something or other and they heal just fine. I may try to reduce the sugar in my tea or simply drink it black part of the day. I have already added water and dumped coffee, for the most part

I do not plan on making my life miserable. My health issues can probably all be tracked back to a tired thyroid, and taking thyroid meds are no big deal.

I will eat what I want within reason, I am not overweight and my cholesterol balance can Probably be tracked to nibbling braunschweiger when giving my dog his turmeric paste and pills in it. The dog with cancer, btw, while he is a 7.5 year old rotti and they usually last to age 9, no longer has a swollen lymph node and is doing well. I however need to get out of the braunschweiger and that would be easiest if I didn't feed it to the dog who probably doesn't need the fat either.  That is a dietary change I will make.
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Joke I found particularly meaningful:

Will I live to be 80?

I recently turned 65 and had to choose a new primary care physician for my Medicare program.

After two visits and exhaustive lab tests, he said I was doing "fairly well" for my age.

A little concerned about that comment, I couldn't resist asking him, "Do you think I will live to be 80?"

He asked: Do you smoke tobacco or drink alcoholic beverages?"

"Oh no," I replied. "I don't do drugs, either."

"Do you have many friends and entertain frequently?"

"I said, "No, I usually stay home and keep to myself".

"Do you eat rib-eye steaks and barbecued ribs?"

I said, "No, my other doctor said that all red meat is unhealthy!"

"Do you spend a lot of time in the sun, like playing golf, sailing, hiking, or bicycling?"

"No, I don't," I said.

"Do you gamble, drive fast cars, or have a lot of sex?"

"No," I said. "I don't do any of those things."

He looked at me and said, "Then why do you care?

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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2015, 05:07:25 pm »
I have relatives that are still alive (and alert) at 99 years old and every time I visited them over the years I couldn’t believe the crap they would eat!  They followed NONE of the rules the nutritionists tell us to follow.  Lots of high fats and animal products.  That’s the way the older generations ate; not a lot of processed stuff. 

I thought I had a thyroid problem about 10 years ago and had it tested and retested and it came back fine.  I figured that would be the least of my problems ;D  Anyways they recommended some changes in diet too.  It seems the doctors all have the same play book 8)

I quit eating beef and drinking soda for about 10 years and can’t say I really missed it.  I finally decided what I eat probably isn’t going to kill me (based on the junk my 99 year old relatives ate) if I maintain good weight and exercise regimes.  Also take extra B vitamins.

Right now the main goal is trying to survive -18F  :'(     

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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2015, 07:02:10 pm »
good to hear back from you gypsi , so no autoimmune disease of the thyroid? a deficiency if i am reading right? , (sorry).

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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2015, 07:35:57 pm »
I sorta live by that joke. I spent 7 days in the hospital in 1974. When discharged, the nurse gave me a diet covering less than a half page. I asked her how long I needed to stay on it. She replied, "as long as you want to live".

I replied, " I don't", laid it down and walked out. I try to eat healthy second, what I want first.
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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2015, 08:41:40 pm »
I have lived with allergies that ended my first choice career before I was out of high school.  I was able to have a dog in the house for the first time at age 49, and I can never volunteer on site at a shelter

I have; lived on a high protein low carb diet since the age of 17, almost 40 years.

I almost laughed when she prescribed that diet.  She wants me below 100 grams of carbs a day. The only sugar I have is accompanied by caffeine, so I burn it off. I don't eat bread potatoes or pasta.  Then she prescribed gluten free, don't have much gluten now...  we will be chatting.

I will not remarry, last husband would have had me hooked up to machines for 30 years to keep him from being alone if that is what it took.  I don't like hospitals or machines. I am allergic to drugs, they are just tools to make me miserable before I die.

While I live and enjoy life, I will live.  If I'm not enjoying life, time to boot the job, husband child or whatever and move on and find something new to do. My children are grown, parents dead, I don't owe my time and life to anyone. Studying wallpaper in a retirement home isn't on my list.

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« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2015, 08:38:53 pm »
Update:

well the sonogram is an interesting thing.  first email from the doctor's office said small nodule on thyroid, re-sonogram in 3 months.  Today's email said rush biopsy huge nodule on thyroid.  The tech who did the sonogram didn't seem to see anything all that alarming, not perfect but not alarming.

The first email was calm. 

So before I jumped to panic mode on the 2nd one I considered that the same doctor prescribed me a diabetic medicine when I am not diabetic, and prescribed me a patented form of methylfolate by calling it into my pharmacy after I declined it at the office, as one of my b6 processing genes is running at 100% and the other is at 70%..  I think my doctor is a hypochondriac.  Seeking a 2nd opinion, out of network, paying cash, before I do more than take my 15 mg Armour thyroid in the morning.   I'm hypoglycemic, that sugar dropper could have been quite dangerous, it made me feel quite ill the day I took it just in case I really needed it.  I stopped.

Tort reform has made it almost impossible to sue a Texas doctor even if they kill you, so let the patient beware..  I'm wary.  Stay warm,

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« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2015, 10:22:02 pm »
I'm all for second opinions Gypsi ~
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« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2015, 12:18:47 pm »
Gypsi, sorry to hear about your thyroid diagnosis.  I have a low functioning thyroid and have for many years.  In my case it is hereditary.  One of my sisters and my 87 year old mother are the same.  The thyroid does an amazing function and I would recommend staying with a program the doctor has prescribed.  I am certain that thyroid problems tend to be geographical.  Diagnosis is rare in certain parts of the country and therefore some doctors don't know how to effectively treat thyroid issues.  In this region, thyroid issues are common. 

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« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2015, 10:33:34 pm »
Hang in there Gypsi!!

   But I am with Iddee.. when you said...

    But I am now off beef.

   I was all done right there..  I MIGHT stop going to my Favorite resauraunt., (McDonalds #4 double quarter pounder with cheese and supersize fries)  But There is no way I could stop eating beef. It makes up 70% of my diet, Potatoes make up 25%  then there is Pizza....    ;D
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« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2015, 03:57:37 am »
Quarter Pounder with Cheese = 520 calories, 26 grams of fat, 12 grams Sat fat, 1.5 grams TRANS fat, 1100 mg salt

Large Fries = 510 calories, 24 grams of fat, 3.5 grams of Sat fat.

That's a half days worth of calories and 8/10s day worth of fat in one meal!

Let’s hope you go for a diet drink with that combo.  ;D

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« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2015, 08:33:19 am »
I'm with LazyB on this one ;D. Like grandpa said, when i die? it won't be because i'm in debt to my stomach, :D. My wife had two goiter operations before she was 30 yrs. old, the service wouldn't take my brothers in the army because they had Thyroid, but they let me in and i had Thyroid and flat feet,  :D Jack

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« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2015, 08:36:38 am »
Considering I usually only eat two meals a day it works out OK...  I put on weight in the winter, and lose it in the summer..   Put on WAY too much this winter though...   Looking forward to getting it gone.
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« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2015, 12:51:40 pm »
I too have changed my thoughts on food. Never did do much with calorie counting. What I'm comfortable with is food that is not packaged. Try and eat the way food comes from the ground. Cattle feet are on the ground, that's good enough for me. Although I can't get by with the McDonald's foods withoug a gut ache, I do like a good hamburger where the chef digs into a big glob of quality hamburger (preferably local) at the side of the grill, flattens it in between his hands a few times and throws it onto the griddle. Now we're talkin'  ;D
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« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2015, 03:59:30 pm »
Maybe we can learn from the bees and store our winter food in our homes and not in our bodies  8)

I have seen yellow jackets hanging around MickyDs but not honey bees.  Maybe the bees are wiser than we think  :laugh:

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« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2015, 05:16:37 pm »
Considering I usually only eat two meals a day it works out OK...  I put on weight in the winter, and lose it in the summer..   Put on WAY too much this winter though...   Looking forward to getting it gone.

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