Author Topic: I hate doctors (Read 12682 times)

LogicalBee · « **Reply #20 on:** February 23, 2015, 06:07:36 pm »

Perry, maybe you need some more snow to shovel

Sorry, cabin fever is starting to set in

LazyBkpr · « **Reply #21 on:** February 23, 2015, 07:28:22 pm »

LOL
too true.. I quit the Skoal habit... just decided enough was enough and quit, then the weight went on FAST... but am holding RIGHT at 200 now, 180 is the goal. Being able to get out and stay out is the secret.. No slowing down when the weather starts to turn..

Slowmodem · « **Reply #22 on:** February 23, 2015, 08:56:28 pm »

Quote from: brooksbeefarm on February 23, 2015, 08:33:19 am

I'm with LazyB on this one . Like grandpa said, when i die? it won't be because i'm in debt to my stomach, . My wife had two goiter operations before she was 30 yrs. old, the service wouldn't take my brothers in the army because they had Thyroid, but they let me in and i had Thyroid and flat feet, Jack

When I die I am going to donate my body to science fiction.

Jen · « **Reply #23 on:** February 23, 2015, 10:13:18 pm »

Slow- "When I die I am going to donate my body to science fiction.

That's funny

lazy shooter · « **Reply #24 on:** February 23, 2015, 11:05:57 pm »

I can't imagine that science, not science fiction, needs any more trashed out bodies. But Slow's comment was funny.

Gypsi · « **Reply #25 on:** February 24, 2015, 02:07:04 am »

There are only 3 real things wrong with my thyroid test. 1. TSH 18.2 The other 2 are auto immune stuff attacking the thyroid, doc says gluten causes it. I am not sure about that. I can get all the way gluten free but it isn't a big jump.

I am taking my thyroid meds. I am also getting a 2nd opinion from a diabetes / thyroid clinic that is not on my insurance plan but is very very good according to a young friend of my daughters who has had a lot of thyroid issues. that 2nd email with the panic must have surgery was scary but almost certainly attempted insurance fraud. It happens. A lot.

I called the sonogram place today to request a copy of my sonogram for a 2nd opinion and told her about the 2 emails, first day, small nodule see you in 3 months, 2nd day panic, giant nodule needs surgery immediately. She laughed. I pick up my copies tomorrow, and while I do have issues going on, I am not going to trash my life making a doctor rich on unnecessary surgery.

I make 80 to 90% of my income between March and July and unless there is a fast growing cancer all surgeries except maybe a needle biopsy will wait until July. I am not going to make myself homeless over it. Starvation is a real threat, there are zero social services I qualify for that would pay my mortgage or utilities and I have no living family that would be of any help. Frankly folks, I could end up living under a bridge relatively easy. So I will dictate my care around my business schedule unless there is a genuine emergency.

And I think I will donate my body to science fiction too Jack.

Lazy - if I could find decent actual local beef I would eat some beef but I can't. I can however get grass fed lamb.

LazyBkpr · « **Reply #26 on:** February 24, 2015, 08:20:41 am »

Lamb will work, I have heard fresh goat is good too.. Been thinking about getting a few, they are a lot of fun to watch. My fear, is that the wife will make them pets, then it gets hard for me to eat them when she glares at me with accusing eyes. Happened with my meat rabbits.... Had to get rid of them.

riverbee · « **Reply #27 on:** February 24, 2015, 10:06:27 am »

"There are only 3 real things wrong with my thyroid test. 1. TSH 18.2 The other 2 are auto immune stuff attacking the thyroid, doc says gluten causes it. I am not sure about that. "

tsh, t-3 and t-4. gypsi that tsh level is extremely high. are you seeing an endocrinologist for the 2nd opinion at the diabetes/thyroid clinic?

Gypsi · « **Reply #28 on:** February 24, 2015, 11:29:32 am »

my t3 and t4 are normal. The high ones are
Anti-thyro Globulin: 575
Anti-Thyro Peroxidase : 600

These 2 she says are caused by gluten, but I barely eat any bread and if I have had pasta 3 times in the last 6 months that is about it I don't eat processed foods that would have hidden gluten. Eggs, veggies and meat are gluten free foods So something is up. But a 2nd opinion is necessary, I've had enough lies and would prefer to speak with someone who doesn't have a rich insurance payout coming for unnecessary procedures. I have paid cash for my health care virtually all of my life, I have drug allergies and unnecessary anything is NOT a good idea.

I have to get all my records and my sonogram picked up and to the thyroid clinic and then they will call me if they approve me for a 2nd opinion since I am cash pay and out of network. I picked the wrong insurance plan,
Blue Cross HMO almost no doctors take. Too bad. If it leaves only crooked ones available. but I can see a bad doctor and still come out ok as long as I use my head. Done that before too.

we have had an ice storm today.

Whatever is going on has been going on for about 5 years at my guess, that is when my energy levels dropped a bit, and I doubt seriously that it is a crisis. I actually feel much better just taking 15 mg of Armour thyroid

Lazy, I loved my pet goat. agreed to let her male offspring provide a bbq when she was pregnant, then she went and pulled an escape, died on me and broke my heart. I don't think I can eat goat. If I get better fencing I can have a milk goat again. I love goat cheese.

riverbee · « **Reply #29 on:** February 24, 2015, 06:16:01 pm »

gypsi,
i appreciate your reply, the "Anti-thyro Globulin: 575 Anti-Thyro Peroxidase : 600", these are, if i have this correct antibody tests sometimes done by gp's. sometimes these levels go up and down......it is the tsh level that is most important, and the t3 and t4 levels.

are you seeing an endocrinologist on the 2nd opinion?

Gypsi · « **Reply #30 on:** February 24, 2015, 07:53:47 pm »

if I can find an endocrinologist that will accept me. The clinic I am going to drop records to has several I picked up my cd with my sonogram today. I have 2 thyroid nodules, one is 2 mm and one is 3 mm.

I can't go to just any doctor or hospital or endocrinologist and say here I am treat me. If they do not accept my insurance and do not accept cash pay patients then I can't go there.

The one I am dropping records to might accept me. My credit is good. Yes that is important, lol. Never mind if I am sick or well, that is not important

Dr who reviewed my sonograms at the imaging place recommended another sonogram in 6 months, so I have time to see what the Armour thyroid does in case no one is willing to do a 2nd opinion

Gypsi · « **Reply #31 on:** February 26, 2015, 10:45:17 am »

My doctor's office called a bit after 5 yesterday - the rush biopsy doctor - and said they had decided on a re-sonogram in 3 months. I suggested a needle biopsy after their scary email last week and in truth one of these nodules is too small for a needle biopsy (2 x 3 mm) so I really think the panicky email was a trumped up test the water, rake in some easy insurance cash. Glad I didn't panic. With drug allergies unnecessary surgeries are never a good idea

brooksbeefarm · « **Reply #32 on:** February 26, 2015, 11:11:17 am »

There are some good doctors, my wife had a bad one (a surgeon ) when she broke her arm, the cast wasn't right and when she told him it was to tight he said it's because it was healing, she still has trouble and pain in it after 12 yrs.( and she's not one to complain) This same surgeon is being sued now for operating on the wrong knee in two total knee replacement cases.

Jack

Gypsi · « **Reply #33 on:** February 26, 2015, 02:22:39 pm »

well a chiropractor trying to fix my daughter's migraines a year ago broke her jaw. He genuinely feels remorseful, the jaw is approximately healed but the muscles aren't right and she is in constant pain. I have talked her into seeing a neurologist at her expense or mine as the darned fool is kind of vanishing and no lawyer will take the case as tort reform has made medical malpractice not profitable. Constant pain is not good for the mind.

on the "I'm eating crow" side of this, I think the doc was right about gluten causing the problems. I am a creature of habit, I eat the same thing for breakfast or lunch for a year, sometimes years, at a time, as I hit the ground running for work and have zero imagination.

There are two distinct diseases: Celiac disease, where when you eat gluten, your antibodies to it destroy your stomach, and gluten-intolerance, where your antibodies attack all over your body. Doctors who specialize in celiac now recognize both diseases. Much research is going on. Those who have gluten-intolerance/celiac are 30% more likely to have hypothyroid disease, as well as develop diabetes.

My doctor suggested that gluten was increasing the thyroid attacking antibodies in my blood, and I disagreed til I remembered when my metabolism shifted and my energy dropped. The year I ate shredded wheat with almond milk for breakfast every day. After my intestines began to torture me I went back to 3 eggs no bread no cereal and the intestines have gradually improved, but perhaps the thyroid attack really is from gluten. Not sure. Giving up gluten to find out. It may have been the wheat all along. I improved when I went back to eggs, but I do eat a subway whole wheat bun sandwich around once a week, or a sonic chicken wrap in a tortilla. And I've had a lot of shoulder pain that the turmeric did not clear up, figured it was muscle strain. Well I am off work for the cold weather, and I found a partial loaf of bread left over from the grandkids, and my shoulders were feeling good yesterday, so I had a slice of bread with my eggs. And today, my shoulder is killing me. Oooops...

Threw the bread out, giving away all my wheat flour and stuff with gluten today. Going to see what happens, I get new thyroid testing done in 4 weeks or so. I may even hold of on the 2nd opinion right now. (esp since the freeze has me off work and no money coming in the door.)

Gypsi · « **Reply #34 on:** April 26, 2015, 04:58:24 pm »

Never got the 2nd opinion, have diligently taken my thyroid meds, but can barely drag out of bed and keep falling asleep at the wheel. No energy to go through the hives. So all in all while the doctor hasn't killed me yet, apparently she's working on it. My BP was 95/59 at my daughter's on Friday. Nice to know that those energy enhancing thyroid hormones are working. I was at 120/80 before them. Relieved to discover what is wrong before I die.

Slowmodem · « **Reply #35 on:** April 26, 2015, 08:09:00 pm »

Quote from: Gypsi on April 26, 2015, 04:58:24 pm

Never got the 2nd opinion, have diligently taken my thyroid meds, but can barely drag out of bed and keep falling asleep at the wheel. No energy to go through the hives. So all in all while the doctor hasn't killed me yet, apparently she's working on it. My BP was 95/59 at my daughter's on Friday. Nice to know that those energy enhancing thyroid hormones are working. I was at 120/80 before them. Relieved to discover what is wrong before I die.

I asked for a second opinion once, and he said, "And you're ugly, too!" badda boom

Gypsi · « **Reply #36 on:** April 27, 2015, 11:56:21 am »

Instead of a 2nd opinion I'm getting a BP monitor, and I'm already testing my own blood sugar several times a day, started Friday, to get a handle on what is up with my body that is hitting my energy levels so hard. Have an appointment for a blood draw for thyroid testing tomorrow morning. Still feel like cr*p

riverbee · « **Reply #37 on:** April 29, 2015, 07:32:33 pm »

gypsi, a bp monitor?
this isn't going to tell you what the problem is. get the second opinion, find an endocrinologist to get to the bottom of the problem. just my humble opinon.

thyroid tests, good plan.

Gypsi · « **Reply #38 on:** May 03, 2015, 12:29:59 am »

I have no time for the second opinion right now. If I do not earn money in the spring I do not make it through the year. It has been a horrendous week, but I'll get by.

I did go in to the original clinic and get blood drawn for thyroid panel. results in a couple of weeks. at this point my give a blank is so far broken I don't think it is recoverable.

riverbee · « **Reply #39 on:** May 03, 2015, 09:01:14 pm »

ok gypsi, forgive me.....no time for a second opinion on what's going on?

then prepare to stay 'sick', and you will most likely suffer until your give a blank finally kicks in or your fighting side says 'enough'. i say this with deep concern and care.