Author Topic: Hot Hive! (Read 26619 times)

Jen · « **Reply #100 on:** April 13, 2015, 11:52:52 am »

Okay, and one of the sites we cruzed thru last night about using sulfur to kill a hive is that it can take up to an hour of smoking. Would that be in your experience Iddee?

iddee · « **Reply #101 on:** April 13, 2015, 03:17:37 pm »

I don't kill bees. The sulfur was used up north back when they killed the bees, took the honey, and bought packages in the spring. I have only read about it.

Jen · « **Reply #102 on:** April 13, 2015, 03:44:25 pm »

Curious ~

Do you relocate hot bees then? Say you live in town like I do, what would you do with hot bees?

iddee · « **Reply #103 on:** April 13, 2015, 04:05:09 pm »

Requeen every 5 frames in nucs, with different genetic queens. If you want to pay overnight shipping, I can send you queens tomorrow.
Meaning each 10 frame box would become 2 nucs.

Jen · « **Reply #104 on:** April 13, 2015, 04:40:15 pm »

I like that idea, however....

"The hive is void of Everything... except really mad bees, three queen cells center of frames"

Scenario - I make a nuc out of a hive that has no eggs, no larvae, no capped brood? I would be putting 5 blank frames with pulled wax in the nuc with angry bees. Introduce a queen, she would be released in about 3 days and start laying. It takes 21 days to make a bee, so in 21 days a bunch of bees would be born from the new queen. Now we have a new colony with new genetics. Meanwhile, the rest of the mad bees will be dying out, that would be about 2-3 weeks from now.... right?

iddee · « **Reply #105 on:** April 13, 2015, 04:57:35 pm »

All things with bees are "most times", not "always. The temperament of a hive tends to come from the pheremones of the queen. Most times a requeened hive will get docile as soon as the new queen is accepted.

Add to that, the larger the hive, the more aggressive. A nuc will almost always be gentler than a large hive. The combination of requeening and breaking into nucs will work to calm the bees.

Jen · « **Reply #106 on:** April 13, 2015, 05:50:12 pm »

Thanks for riding that out with me Iddee, you're a patient teacher

I do believe I've covered all or most of the options on what to do with a hot hive. And I also know that each beeks situation is going to be different. Last year my lessons were on multiple swarms. This year it's hot hives. Makes me wonder what I'm in for next spring

iddee · « **Reply #107 on:** April 13, 2015, 05:54:46 pm »

Next year will be 40 years I've kept bees. Saturday a man asked me how much I knew about keeping bees. I replied, "about 3%". I'm learning every day. Don't expect to get all the answers anytime soon.

Jen · « **Reply #108 on:** April 13, 2015, 05:58:58 pm »

Iddee- "I'm learning every day. Don't expect to get all the answers anytime soon.

I beg to disagree, with this forum I have learned an insurmountable amount of bee knowledge 'Quickly'

Slowmodem · « **Reply #109 on:** April 13, 2015, 07:49:57 pm »

Quote from: iddee on April 13, 2015, 05:54:46 pm

Next year will be 40 years I've kept bees. Saturday a man asked me how much I knew about keeping bees. I replied, "about 3%". I'm learning every day. Don't expect to get all the answers anytime soon.

40 years is quite an extraordinary accomplishment! In layman's terms: You da man!

If you could only put all your experiences in a book, it would be a "must read".

LazyBkpr · « **Reply #110 on:** April 13, 2015, 08:36:12 pm »

If you could only put all your experiences in a book, it would be a "must read".

I will pay for an autographed copy!

I will likely have to settle for an Autographed picture to hang in my ~~mancave~~ Bee Shed.. Bee shed being 40 by 80 and heated!!

Jen · « **Reply #111 on:** April 18, 2015, 04:54:11 pm »

These are the frames of honey from Hot Hive. All ten frames are about half full. Can I put them into my other hives and let them finish filling them out with nectar and capping? or save them for winter feed? or extract?

barry42001 · « **Reply #112 on:** April 18, 2015, 05:08:17 pm »

Why not let them on and allow the bees to finish filling the?

Jen · « **Reply #113 on:** April 18, 2015, 05:10:31 pm »

You mean why not leave them in hot hive and let them finish filling them out?

barry42001 · « **Reply #114 on:** April 18, 2015, 05:30:02 pm »

Yes, lol must check spell check. Being so early in the season, surely they have much more nectar to gather.

Jen · « **Reply #115 on:** April 18, 2015, 05:31:20 pm »

Because Hot Hive no longer exists

barry42001 · « **Reply #116 on:** April 18, 2015, 08:18:03 pm »

Put it on the strongest to finish it up

LazyBkpr · « **Reply #117 on:** April 18, 2015, 08:53:00 pm »

Yep, put it on the next best hive and they will finish it up.. make sure to have another box under or over.. it takes two supers to store the nectar that will eventually dehydrate into ONE super. Make sure they have the room!

Jen · « **Reply #118 on:** April 18, 2015, 08:57:43 pm »

Sounds good you guys! Thanks!

riverbee · « **Reply #119 on:** April 18, 2015, 09:49:51 pm »

like barry and scott said, put them in the other two hives, and what i would do is pull any empties and replace with these.

if there are no empties, or some empties save whatever, give them when needed or for the 'un-rainy' day (dearth) in california when they need feed. i wouldn't extract them.

"Because Hot Hive no longer exists "

do tell?