European foul bood

[G3farms]

Had a hive with EFB, so I shook all of the bees onto new foundation with a frame of brood from another healthy hive....all seems to be going very well now.

Question is......since this is a brood disease would you discard the honey/nectar stores that they had collected or just trash everything?

Scraping the frames clean should be good enough and maybe even a day in the solar melter.

[efmesch]

I wouldn't feed it to the bees------but, to the best of my knowledge, the EFB bacteria are benign to humans, which means you can feed it to ---US. 

[Lburou]

I found a hive with some EFB symptoms this past week.  It looked like the last round of brood was healthy.  I took the honey super off, put a terra pro patty over the brood chamber and fed it sugar water.  I expect a full recovery with the frames still in place.  The queen should be replaced too.  The honey super will be used wherever it is needed. 

[Dunkel]

A good flow can clear up a lot of problems.  I would replace the queen.

[Yankee11]

I had a bout with EFB early this spring. We caged the queens for 10 days to cause a brood break and treated 3 treatments of Terra Pro during the 10 days then released the same queens,

All hives recovered and came back very strong. You just have to have that brood break to stop the spreading,

[Dunkel]

Thanks, good to know Yankee.

[Mikey N.C.]

??  How was EFB introduced in these hives ? ? ?

[G3farms]

Not sure Mikey, it started in a couple of splits with queens from Georgia.
This is at least where I noticed it.
I made splits on 3-18 and 3-19, I might have jumped the gun a little on time, but it seemed to work out well when everything started to bloom. Hoping I gave them enough nurse bees to cover the brood frames and not stress them.

[Mikey N.C.]

So how do you know EFB, dead cell's, toothpick test

[G3farms]

biggest tip would be dead brood before it is capped.

the toothpick test will result in more of a snotty result rather than a ropey result.

[Mikey N.C.]

Thanks G3

[CBT]

What to do with the queen for ten days Yankee. I need to try it

[LazyBkpr]

I have found it in packages in the past, but have no way to say YES THIS CAME with the bees...    The first time it happened I moved them to another outyard and put them on NEW foundation with Terra Pro and syrup... Burned the frames they were on.   The second time I treated three times with Terra pro and it was gone..   I can pretty much pop the top on a hive now, and tell by the faint ammonia/fishy smell if they have EFB, before I see the yellow larvae.

    May I ask, WHY do you replace the queen? Is she the carrier of the disease?

[apisbees]

I think it has more to due with the possibility that the disease is showing up in only a few hives because of poor cleansing genetics in the hive. This comes from the queen

[LazyBkpr]

Ahh, ok, thanks Apis...
   I usually replace package queens later on anyhow, and put them in nucs, and then replace them permanently when the nuc is up and growing. TY for the reply!