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Feral open air hives....
« on: August 14, 2016, 01:29:03 pm »
Thought I would share some picks of Honeybees living in caves high up in banks of desert washes here near my home. This is also what helped spark my intrest. I see them often around the state during my gold hunting adventures... If anyone else has some examples of open air colonies I would love to see them...









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Re: Feral open air hives....
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2016, 04:36:48 pm »
very cool!
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Re: Feral open air hives....
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2016, 04:38:36 pm »
Yes that's really cool thanks

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Re: Feral open air hives....
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2016, 04:55:04 pm »
I would place high probability that they are African bees. If you watched the season and flows their would be some good honey robbing opportunity if they were easy enough to get at and you had on enough protection.
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Re: Feral open air hives....
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2016, 05:12:30 pm »
Actually the feral honeybees here in Central Arizona are not all AHB as the media would lead one to believe and naturally one of my first questions of the local beekeepers in my area. There are on occassion episodes with agressive bees, but even EHB can get really mad when someone disturbs a hive at the wrong time so now all bee attacks here are labled as AHB and just not true. I have captured feral bees here from in water boxes and the latest in April from a truck tire and both colonies that stayed are very gentle and just plain old honeybees. Down South however it is a bit different and they are showing up much more often. We get some temps down into the high 20 F degree range here in winter for several days at a time and the locals say they do not care for the cold. I do know they must be tested at a lab and 75 percent from the State are said to be negative.

Hopefully I will never run into any and all the feral colonies I have come across in the desert could care less about me being near them showing no agression as I google eye them and snap pictures. There are allot of beekeepers in my area at around 2000 ft above sea level as are there in the hundreds of citrus groves, almond groves, pistassio, and huge fields of vegitables and cotton in the Phoenix Valley area and rarely is there an incident. Most of what is reported in the news is in the city and has to do with a hive being disturbed and the resulting attack. I am guessing with so many commercial beekeepers here the population of feral bees is largly from their swarms as well....

No doubt some are AHB, but not as many as reported because regular honeybee attacks don't sell news....

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Re: Feral open air hives....
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2016, 09:56:22 am »
got a call for a swarm & found this. very unusual for this area.




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Re: Feral open air hives....
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2016, 07:18:10 pm »
Wow Rober, that is an unusual spot. Make ya wonder what got the scout bees thinking "this is the spot"
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Re: Feral open air hives....
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2016, 08:43:23 pm »
Wow Rober, that is an unusual spot. Make ya wonder what got the scout bees thinking "this is the spot"

  Agreed..   I have often wondered what they were thinking.. maybe they could find nothing better???    A light rain on a 35 degree day and they will be DONE.
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Re: Feral open air hives....
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2016, 09:11:04 pm »
This one was about 25 feet up in a pecan tree.





I assisted with THREE of these in one week, 23, 25, & 33 feet up.   :o




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Re: Feral open air hives....
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2016, 10:23:21 am »
Here is another in a Saguaro Cactus...



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Re: Feral open air hives....
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2016, 12:52:15 pm »
First one I ever got, kind of odd for this area. Was in a big bush about head high.

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Re: Feral open air hives....
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2016, 01:23:32 pm »
What a neat colony.... Seems the chance for survival in winter would be very slim...
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Re: Feral open air hives....
« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2016, 09:43:14 pm »
there was a 5' tall  x 10" wide vertical cylindrical depression ( not a hole ) in the trunk & the trunk leaned into the fence so I guess they felt sheltered enough although they would not have survived the winter in this configuration.  this was a large hive. there were at least 5# of bees. they're in a single deep & doing well.