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Two more questions
« on: September 22, 2016, 05:46:57 pm »
Can I feed at the same time I am treating my hives with mite away strips?
I have a one very aggressive hive is it to late in the year to re-queen?
Thanks in advance.
Cheers Jim 
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Re: Two more questions
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2016, 06:11:19 pm »
You can feed anytime above 13 C. Treating or not.
The N.S. guys will have to tell you about requeening.
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Re: Two more questions
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2016, 08:14:31 pm »
If you are requeening with a mated queen I don't see why not? ???
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Re: Two more questions
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2016, 11:38:56 pm »
I'm always wanting to stay on Iddee's good side, but, I think the manufacturer now recommends no feeding during the first 7 days of a MAQS treatment. I've read reports of the bees not taking sugar syrup during the early days of a MAQS treatment, and some report bees won't take sugar syrup for two or three weeks if it was available early in the treatment.   :)

Brushy mountain shows the manufacturer's FAQs, here, see #9.
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Re: Two more questions
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2016, 11:45:33 pm »
sorry guys  What is MAQS???
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Re: Two more questions
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2016, 12:59:02 am »
vandy, MAQS= mite away quick strips.....
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Re: Two more questions
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2016, 05:18:51 am »
You're not getting on my bad side. What does it hurt to have feed on them if they don't take it. Like during a flow, it's there if they want it. Otherwise, it'll be there when they do. I haven't heard where it might hurt anything.
I would think if it would contaminate the sugar water in any way, it would also contaminate the stores already in the hives.

Lee, how about #7? If they continue to forage, what difference does it make where they get it?
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Re: Two more questions
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2016, 05:47:53 am »
Thanks for the help.
Jim
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Re: Two more questions
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2016, 09:24:59 am »
Quote from: iddee on September 23, 2016, 05:18:51 am
...Lee, how about #7? If they continue to forage, what difference does it make where they get it?

I don't know Iddee.  I offer these quips from a  BEE-L thread...

Quote from:  Adam R., A Question:
I treated with MAQS and fed a yard of singles at the same last year due to time constraints. I found that only the very strongest singles will go up past the strips to a top feeder. I then found that even after the treatment pads were removed they didn't want to go up into the feeders. It seemed like they had created a lasting association between the feed/feeders and the MAQS.
 

Quote from: Answer from NOD, MAQS Manufacturer
The suggestion not to feed during treatment is based on trending and observation, not research.  Hives struggling when treated under conditions of nutritional stress is a phenomenon we observed in France after the lavender flow and we don't want the treatment to be blamed for what are nutritional issues.  So we advise, as a general best management practice, to ensure the nutritional element of animal husbandry is addressed before treatment.  It makes sense if you think of the 'feed before treatment' direction with any other livestock or pets: starving animals subjected to any additional stress will have more trouble handling it than well fed animals. 
Regarding feeding syrup during treatment, open source feeding (barrel feeding) is ok as it's just like a honey flow.  However, in-hive feeding has led to observed queen issues in our bees so we know to advise against it. This was true with hive top feeders.  The entrance reduction issues are well understood and dealt with elsewhere on the label.  To keep things simple on the label, rather than discuss various feeding methods, we just went with the blanket statement.  Hope this helps.  Great question!

 
Wendy Mather
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NOD Apiary Products Ltd.
U.S.A. Office
t.  1 916-850-9871
w. www.nodglobal.com
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Re: Two more questions
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2016, 11:41:46 am »
As in most bee arguments, we both are right.  ;D
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Re: Two more questions
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2016, 02:00:25 pm »
Quote from: iddee on September 23, 2016, 11:41:46 am
As in most bee arguments, we both are right.  ;D
I know better than to kerfuffle with you Iddee!   :laugh:
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Re: Two more questions
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2016, 01:27:23 pm »
BE CAREFUL Lee.. I heard that Iddee likes to kerfuffle, and that he will follow you around making puppy eyes!
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