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Re: Pesticide bans....
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2017, 11:10:33 am »
 Most important part of that IMHO.

"European scientists have discovered that bee populations are experiencing a resurgence after three neonicotinoid insecticides, clothianidin, imidacloprid and thiamethoxam were banned by the European Commission in 2013. Unfortunately, all three are still used heavily in the USA."
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Re: Pesticide bans....
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2017, 12:12:09 am »
I ran into this site in one of Randy Oliver's posts on Bee-L.  No question that insecticides kill insects, both good and bad.  Some experts say the neonicotinoids are less dangerous than the alternatives.  I believe there is middle ground on these issues.  The risk-monger blog is here.   :)

About the risk-monger:

David Zaruk is the Risk-Monger. He has been an EU risk and science communications specialist since 2001, active in EU policy events from REACH and SCALE to the Pesticides Directive, from Science in Society questions to the use of the Precautionary Principle. He was part of the team that set up GreenFacts to encourage a wider use of evidence-based decision-making in the EU on environmental health matters. He is an adjunct professor at Vesalius College and Facultés Universitaires St-Louis where he lectures on Risk Communications, EU Lobbying, Corporate Communications and PR. He still does some consulting work at Risk Perception Management, but only for friends and he refuses the timesheet mentality that has made consulting into a mercenary-like profession. In the past, he has been employed by Solvay, Cefic and Burson-Marsteller, retiring from "active work" in 2006.

He is also a graduate, like most of us, from Google University, and while he is tempted to pretend to be an expert on everything he searches on, he believes that there are scholars who have spent years working to become experts in their fields whose views merit more value than the collective.

The views in this blog are his own - he never has and never will blog on behalf of a job or a paid project. Please do not complain to BlogActiv about any offensive Risk-Monger contribution - they support open-minded thinking. Send your complaint as a comment and the Risk-Monger will gladly publish it (with no more than two links though to avoid the spam filter).

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Re: Pesticide bans....
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2017, 06:55:38 am »
So I am wonder Lee why folks place so much faith in Risk Monger (it seems Randy O does also and he will only answer these same question in a very non informative/oblique way which really makes me wonder about Randy's credentials or resume????).  As to the above there is no physical Google University but it seems to be a reference to googling any question or topic and not much about studying some subject deep or wide.  As far as I know 'adjunct' professor means some friends loans you a desk at some university and you teach a class for free.  The only real solid reference I see above is it appear the fellow has worked for a number of Chemical companies ( I have also but to say you have while pretending to be neutral seems a bit far fetched to me???).  It appears the fellow has taken on a fancy title and makes remarks on science for what appears to be a background in journalism < and we all need to remind ourselves what Joe Willie Namath said about that as a field of study.

like yourself I do hope there is some middle ground but recent talk about eliminating the EPA and of course the constantly increasing use of the above products does not lend much confidence that the middle ground is the place we will fairly quickly find ourselves????

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Re: Pesticide bans....
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2017, 12:42:37 pm »
Tec, with my own growing scepticism of the media and its ingrained advocacy reporting on all subjects, I don't know who to believe.  Haven't made up my mind about the risk-monger, I've only just heard of him and his work.  Being sceptical may put me behind in learning the truth on occasion, but it isn't a problem for me.  ;)

Are you officially semi-retired now tec?
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