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Re: Bacillus thuringiensis subsp. aizawai - better known as BT
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2015, 09:37:45 pm »
 Last I heard he had decided not to re-sell it due to possible legal issues.

Look for Xentari if you live in a farming area check the co-op that your framer uses. Some of these co-ops only sell to farmer with an Ag #  Years ago I could get it local in a 1lb pack. Then it became only a 5ld pack. Now I don't know. Go to the valent homepage and shoot your local rep a e-mail. He can at least tell you if it is available in your area.

http://www.valent.com/sales-rep-finder.cfm

SNL over at another place says he gets great results with 1/2 tsp per gallon.

Reidi i tried you zip and did not get a hit. Try the nearest large town?

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« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2015, 09:51:01 pm »
Yes, Sundance quit selling it, but Zulu still has it and will sell and ship small quantities. Order now before your cabbage is destroyed.  ;D
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Re: Bacillus thuringiensis subsp. aizawai - better known as BT
« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2015, 10:07:42 pm »
I need to check Id's sale rules but I will check where I was getting it. Last I heared you could get it there only in a 5lb bag. Makes sense for a large farmer. And I will not bust packages up and distribute like someone else was.

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« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2015, 10:16:51 pm »
Id's sales rule is, keep it honest and upright.
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Re: Bacillus thuringiensis subsp. aizawai - better known as BT
« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2015, 10:40:25 pm »
 I better back out then  :o  :laugh:

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Re: Bacillus thuringiensis subsp. aizawai - better known as BT
« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2015, 11:08:22 pm »
Back when I got mine I think I paid $15 maybe less local and of course no shipping.

 As far as harmful to bees etc it is the same as Certan b401 sold for bees in Canada. The only catch would be instructions on the application rate as one is marketed for bees and the other large spraying of farm crops. I understand at one time Sandoz had a US license for selling it as a bee application. I guess there was not enough profit margin so they let the license expire. I wonder why when you could buy the same Ag product different name for pennies?

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Re: Bacillus thuringiensis subsp. aizawai - better known as BT
« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2015, 11:24:06 pm »
This is a Canadian site bit now says "Not for sale in Canada"?


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Re: Bacillus thuringiensis subsp. aizawai - better known as BT
« Reply #28 on: April 09, 2015, 09:05:13 am »
I ordered a pound of it from Zulu and am quite happy. He shipped it before he received payment, so then I was in a panic to get him paid before I forgot...    Good guy, good product.
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Re: Bacillus thuringiensis subsp. aizawai - better known as BT
« Reply #29 on: April 09, 2015, 09:51:44 am »
 Amen to that LazyBkpr, was the same here.

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« Reply #30 on: April 09, 2015, 10:09:35 am »
Same with me LazyB, i hope i didn't over load him with orders? i gave his address to my bee club members :o. Jack

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« Reply #31 on: April 09, 2015, 11:02:35 pm »
My instructions say mix it when you need it, pour out after 24 hours

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« Reply #32 on: April 10, 2015, 06:35:59 pm »
Roger that.  Mix what you need and discard what you don't use of the mix.  We've had some stormy weather so we unplugged the computer the last few days to avoid losing another to lightning strikes.  Just now able to respond.  Thanks for the info!  Ted
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Re: Bacillus thuringiensis subsp. aizawai - better known as BT
« Reply #33 on: April 10, 2015, 10:15:46 pm »
no need to discard, spray your veggies and fruit trees with it.
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Re: Bacillus thuringiensis subsp. aizawai - better known as BT
« Reply #34 on: April 10, 2015, 11:00:52 pm »
will it still work on the garden and fruit trees after that time is up or will it just make my apples smell so bad nothing will eat them??    :laugh:
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« Reply #35 on: April 10, 2015, 11:33:52 pm »
Did not realize zulu was selling it....

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« Reply #36 on: April 11, 2015, 04:48:50 pm »
I don't think Zulu is selling it---he's being super generous and providing it to those who request it of him.  Considering that he seems to be getting more and more orders, it might be apropriate for those who get his help to offer him some percentage of the cost to cover his ime and expenses.

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« Reply #37 on: April 11, 2015, 04:55:10 pm »
I think he was giving away small amounts, but when some started asking for lbs., he started charging for it.
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Re: Bacillus thuringiensis subsp. aizawai - better known as BT
« Reply #38 on: April 11, 2015, 04:59:58 pm »
Even small amounts involve time, packaging and postage.  Nothing wrong with enjoying Zulu's generosity, but we shouldn't be taking advantage of him.

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Re: Bacillus thuringiensis subsp. aizawai - better known as BT
« Reply #39 on: April 11, 2015, 08:44:45 pm »

   I agree.
   I told him what I wanted, and he SHIPPED it...   I was like...  crap, I havent paid yet!!   A good guy deserves to make at least a LITTLE something for his time and trouble!
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