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Package prices
« on: January 04, 2015, 09:30:50 am »
 :'(  What is up with the Package prices this year?
Last year I paid Under $90, this year it's $110 plus!
I have been busy busy busy, so missed most of the Beek news.
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Re: Package prices
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2015, 09:48:37 am »
They are 95.00 here, from the resellers that drive to Ga. and pick them up. "Guessing" that they are paying 70.00 plus taking the 600 mile round trip.
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Re: Package prices
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2015, 10:09:31 am »
I haven't heard anything about packages up here yet. There are only a few beeks that get them, usually from Australia and/or New Zealand.
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Re: Package prices
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2015, 10:15:33 am »
110 here. 95 last year.

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Re: Package prices
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2015, 10:28:10 am »
Nucs were selling for $160 average last year. I raised mine to $170, mostly to make up the jump in frame and foundation costs.
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Re: Package prices
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2015, 11:32:57 am »
Yep, package prices jumped here as well..   Not planning on buying any packages.. PLANNING...   If I end up with NO BEES I may have to..
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Re: Package prices
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2015, 01:34:30 pm »
sustainability is some thing all bee keepers on a hobby level should shoot for it's not that hard.
I am so glad i never have to buy bee's again.
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Re: Package prices
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2015, 03:07:04 pm »
Looks like there's more money in bees than there is honey.   :eusa_think:

Of course, you'd have to know the inspector.   :eusa_think:
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Re: Package prices
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2015, 09:58:13 pm »
Good thing I quit buying packages.  Swarms from my own and elsewhere is my first choice.

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Re: Package prices
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2015, 01:25:34 pm »
OK, does anybody now why the big jump.
The big winter losses were LAST winter.
Could the fed's program to save the honey bees cause that big of demand or is it price gouging?
I had planned on increasing the size my apiary, but now I'll just hope for light winter losses.

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Re: Package prices
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2015, 01:40:39 pm »
I would agree, it is strange.  Last winter was simply brutal, you expected the much higher prices then due to supply vs demand.  With much lower fuel prices, the cost for moving bees should be significantly lower this spring too.  Kind of wish I had the time to make up some sellable nucs this past summer.   

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Re: Package prices
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2015, 02:12:49 pm »
Hello,

The reason for the increase is simple; beekeepers keep paying it!  Working toward a more sustainable apiary will go a long way towards stopping that or at least slowing it down.

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Re: Package prices
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2015, 02:41:38 pm »
Hello,

The reason for the increase is simple; beekeepers keep paying it!  Working toward a more sustainable apiary will go a long way towards stopping that or at least slowing it down.

We have a winner! :yes:
Supply and demand. Ontario took a 60% loss last winter and nucs there are already going for $200 plus. You folks are lucky down there, prices for frames and foundation have jumped every year here it seems.
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Re: Package prices
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2015, 09:31:52 pm »
If you can get a big buck for your pleasure and find somebody who’s willing to pay for an overpriced product who’s the blame. This is one hobby nobody is going to get rich. The experts will tell us its supply and demand BS. Its a broken system with everybody follow the leader. Bee clubs could educate their people how to raise their own queens. Our clubs could be doing group projects on queen rearing. 200 dollars for a nuc is not going to save the beekeeping industry. Its driving people out. The big beekeeper is getting out. Its up to the little guy now to carry the load.       

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Re: Package prices
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2015, 08:51:52 pm »
We are asking why package prices are increasing this year.  While somewhere I bet there is a discussion going on about the price of Raw local honey increasing.  Both have the same answer.  The producers are trying to get the most they can for a specialty product.
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Re: Package prices
« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2015, 11:50:07 pm »
Like rat said, and i also hear talk of higher food prices in the near future :o Jack

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Re: Package prices
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2015, 11:06:34 am »
 ordered a four frame nuc for 110.00 price only jumped 10.00 that is with four frame exchange!

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Re: Package prices
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2015, 04:06:42 pm »
"If you can get a big buck for your pleasure and find somebody who’s willing to pay for an overpriced product who’s the blame. This is one hobby nobody is going to get rich. The experts will tell us its supply and demand BS. Its a broken system with everybody follow the leader. Bee clubs could educate their people how to raise their own queens. Our clubs could be doing group projects on queen rearing."

i am going to stick up for my supplier/beekeeper, who doesn't sell packages, but does sell nucs. if he did, i would buy packages from him.  i would say him and his wife work really hard, are very successful beekeepers, and it's not all pleasure.  i am willing to pay their asking price on a nuc and i don't believe an established nuc of bees with a laying queen is an overpriced product.  bees are livestock just like anything else. also, every chance i get to sit at their kitchen table and talk to him and his wife on bees, i glean anything i can from him, and they are always willing to help another beek out.   beekeeping for me is far from being a hobby, it is a passion, and a life long one at that, and if you are in it with a few hives or less, you will spend more money than you will ever make, so your eyes need to be wide open on the costs.  we can also teach ourselves to raise our own queens, for those who don't belong to a bee club.  there are a number of methods outside of grafting that work well.  i don't see beeks being driven out by prices, i see them quit for a number of other reasons........mites for one, frustration from lack of experience, lack of a mentor/bee club or lack of educating themselves on keeping bees, or they just plain didn't realize what was involved, and maybe some of that includes the combined costs of bees and equipment.
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