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Re: New Comb vs Old Comb
« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2015, 06:09:29 pm »
heh, he has really picky bees?    ;D

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Re: New Comb vs Old Comb
« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2015, 10:53:20 pm »
.....Between the neonics, the 24-D, Roundup, etc, etc being put on fields, and in town, the garden sprays, flower sprays, the folks spraying their yards to kill dandelions etc, etc..  I try to rotate out comb within 5 years.
   It is ONLY my philosophy, that rotating out at LEAST a percentage of my comb each year limits the build up of those harmful things in the wax.....
I maybe going off topic here, but I've been reading one of Randy Oliver's articles talking about insecticides, fungicides and the resultant cross with apistan, and frankly, I don't get my mind around all of the variables contained in the article.  Would you read it and splain it to me, please?

  The article is here

FWIW, my experience, like previous posters,  is the opposite of the book you referenced BD.....Is that the book R. Oliver referred to in that recent podcast?
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Re: New Comb vs Old Comb
« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2015, 07:14:39 am »

FWIW, my experience, like previous posters,  is the opposite of the book you referenced BD.....Is that the book R. Oliver referred to in that recent podcast?

Yes, it is the podcast posted by kiwimana. 

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Re: New Comb vs Old Comb
« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2015, 11:11:21 am »
Putting stinky plastic foundation in a hive to have it drawn out is like making children love eating vegetables  :D and of course if that's all there is to eat, of course they will reluctantly eat them. :P My girls aren't picky, because i try to give them the best of everything, a place to live, a nice home, Beeswax, a good mama, and me. :D How would you like to stay indoors with that stinky plastic smell all winter,and have your feet on a cold plastic floor all winter long. Hummm, this could make an argument for the CCD mystery. :laugh: :laugh: Jack

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Re: New Comb vs Old Comb
« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2015, 05:21:49 pm »
Lee, that article is mostly talking about Amitraz.   Adding this synergist to a hive basically shuts off a bee’s immune system to pretty much any pesticide with which it later comes into contact.  He (Randy) makes some pretty convincing connections between the use of amitraz and the beginnings of complaints about neonics and other pesticides.
   I have never used Amitraz in anything, so I really cant comment. The only thing I can do is say that I personally have not seen the losses associated with Neonics that others have claimed. YES, I have losses, but I also see the reasons for those losses, and they have little to do with neonic corn and beans.
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Re: New Comb vs Old Comb
« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2015, 11:44:47 pm »
Yes Lazy, I agree with what you say above, thanks.....but he had so many pros and cons in the discussion that I couldn't tell where the facts were actually leading.  I'll read it again soon, maybe it will sink in, I can be pretty dense sometimes.  To this point, I had felt pretty confident there is no real need to rotate my frames out so often -no farming in immediate area save for pecan trees, but not so sure now.    :-)
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Re: New Comb vs Old Comb
« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2015, 08:31:54 am »
It depends onwhat YOU use for chemicals to treat with. I am sure you have mentioned it, but I am pretty dense sometimes   :P    With gardeners, lawns, and mite treatments, plus those pecans etc I would still rotate, but doing it as often may not be as necessary as it is when your hives are only a pace or three away from Neonic corn and beans.
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